Now, c'mon guys! Not one of you would be complaining if the S900 had a similar build quality to a MotifES or regular Motif, that WERE in the same price range. Yes, the price of a MoXS6 has risen to a bit above $2000, but you are getting WAY beyond S900 capabilities for that small increase in price (S900's are pushing $1700, these days).

The case and componentry have nothing to do with the increase between the two lines (older, cheaper Motif's were built just as well as newer XS's).

I am simply gobsmacked that, rather than admit that the toy-like construction of the PSR's is any detriment whatsoever, the Yamaha fanboys circle the wagon and come up with transparent excuse after transparent excuse for why they SHOULD be ripped off so blatantly. And you know what? Yamaha are reading this, rubbing their hands together, chortling at this, and going 'Look, it's working, it's working! The fools would rather keep being ripped off than admit we can make a mistake or improve!"

The triumph of advertising brainwashing over common sense... herd mentality.

Two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good...

Baaaaaaahhhhhhh....

Couldn't agree with you more Diki.

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Guilty as charged

Mind you, I don't mind being in the herd that prefers well built instruments and value for money

You know, when you point out the 'bang for the buck' of the S900, has it occurred to you that this also applies to Yamaha? THEY are getting a pretty good 'bang for the buck' by selling you a much cheaper to produce keyboard at the same price as one that is much more expensively manufactured?

Where I come from, this is called getting ripped off. No doubt where you are from, this is called being a good 'Corporate Citizen'...

Well said Diki. In this case Bang For The Buck means you got BANGED for your bucks by Yamaha for build quality.., yet charged a higher price for a plastic home keyboard. Man if that S-900 was built better I'd own it for sure! The beast is without a doubt a baby Tyros.., but like it's bigger brother it's a plastic home keyboard for a price that doesn't match it's quality of construction.

Yes, Yamaha must make a profit...good for them.

Certainly they deserve it for making such a terrific little arranger for under $2000.

I really don't care what profit they make, and you guys should realize that whining is not going to change anything, so I just pay my money and get what I want...an instrument that fits my needs perfectly, and is a sheer joy to play.

Life is too short to sweat the little details, and far too short for me to deny myself the things that make me happy.

Ian

Actually, Ian... 'whining' (or as it is known in less fanboy circles "customer feedback" ) IS the way to get things improved.

You know, if, rather than rushing to 'poor' Yamaha's defense every time, you (and other PSR users) were a bit more honest about what you would like to see improved (I have no doubt whatsoever that if Yamaha improved the build quality WITHOUT jacking up the price - as they do for WS's - you would be crowing about that as loudly as you do it's other great qualities), Yamaha MIGHT take some notice. Most companies DO take notice of customer feedback (or go under quickly)...

But what you are doing now, singing the Corporate Anthem (do you do the morning calisthenics, sarariman? ) and kowtowing the 'official line' basically GUARANTEES that no improvement will be made. If you can't bring yourself to SAY what could be better, why should they even try?

Yeah, I suppose that might work Diki, if I was actually coming to Yamaha's defence as you imply.

Not so, chum, I just happen to like their philosophy, their sound, and the way they do business...but they don't need to be defended by me, especially since they've done nothing wrong, other than do things their way, and not yours.

Your implication that I, and other PSR users are less than honest, is rather small of you to say...I would have thought you were a bigger man than that.

As far as your other comments about Yamaha's arranger vs. workstation build quality...you'd be far better off contacting them directly by email or phone, but I believe Yamaha's success in both arranger and workstation markets speaks much louder and clearer than anything you can muster....unless, you consider grandstanding on a forum more effective...in that case, fill your hat, although, I'm a bit afraid that it's a rather big hat to fill.

Ian



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The Yammie Repair shop just called me to explained me the motherboard was causing sound issues, they ordered a new one from Japan, which is going to take 3 more weeks plus 1 week labor. That's almost 10 weeks without keyboard, I just paid my last $199(5X$199)easy payments from AMS and still no keyboard. Will never buy any yammie toys ever. I think it's time to forget about overpriced plastic toys and get serious and affordable workstations(will try to get 2 workstation and will not be paying more than 2 grand each)

1 bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch