I bought the bose L1 as I explained before the replace my smaller Pa to use indoors at an acoustically challenged room we play in pretty regularly. It performed flawlessly! It sounded amazing.

After hearing it that night I had a thought to replace my larger JBL system with another L! to use at our large outdoor performance Frankieve and Ian use 2 systems on a regular basis. My thoughts were having 2 bose systems would cover almost any event I would ever be called to do.

This weekend kicked off our season at The Cape Codder Resort in Hyannis, MA. I decided to try the Bose L! model1
with a 2 subs (B1) to see if it would do the job without having 2 systems.

It took a few minutes to get the perfect gain staging. I set the Power stand to 3pm, The remote level was set to 12pm and the Tyros was set to 3pm. I used tone match 55 and set the low on the remote to 3pm.

Let me tell you, I was surprised how much sound came out of that thing in such a big area. It sounded great. I was about 8 feet to the right diagonally. The bass was boomin, chest thumping madness. The mids and highs were crystal clear.

I started to walk around the area while my wife selected various intros. It sounded fabulous. However when I got about 35-45 feet I did notice a loss of the strong bass punch, Although it still sounded loud and clear. I listend from various locations from 25 to 100 feet and the volume was amazingly the same no matter where i was standing.

I believe I can easily get away with 1 system so the JBL's are going up on craigs list. I would buy another bose to have if I do something much larger or knowing theres a backup in a pinch.

1 thing that bugged me with the bose was It drew tons of attention from the guests. I constantly would turn and see people hovering over it like it was a spaceship or something. I actually saw a little brat at one point standing on the powerstand pushing on the sticks. I almost flipped out. I stopped the show and gave a small speech. I have to survey the area next show and find a better layout for my setup. This may help!

My other problem is now that I'm using the mic direct through the tyros 2 I cant seem to get a good setting. As i would turn up the mic volume a little louder than the keyboard it would feedback and hum like crazy. I was tweaking it all night and still couldn't get it to sound good.

Anyone have any good mic settings for just some simple eq and reverb.

I'm so used to singing into a head with effects or a processor. My thought is the mic into input 2 on the bose would sound better but without reverb it stinks. Can anyone recommend a simple superquick portable reverb device to pass through and go direct into the bose.

I liked the mic control and effects on the pa2xpro way more.

Hope this answers any bose questions for anyone else.



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Mikey

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Hi Mikey,

I don't(actually I won't) do outdoor gigs, but I can tell you that the bass needs something to bounce off, so you wouldn't have that issue, even in a large enclosed space.

I use two L1 systems all the time, in stereo, but I'm sure this would apply to only one as well.

Ian

I use the TC Helicon Harmony M voice processor.
It has effects, e.q., AND much better Harmonizer than the Tyros.
I forgot I had promised to send you recordings of it. I'll try to get back to is asap.
Gary Diamond actually made a sign for his pole that said "Danger, High Voltage", or something like that, to keep people off it.
On two occasions I've had people cross behind me, step on the power base and balance themselves by holding onto the pole.
Now I always block "public access" to it by placing something to where they can't get to it.
DonM

That's a good idea about the "High Voltage" signs on the poles...thanks Don.

Mikey don't give up on sending vocals through the Tyros. The feedback is not generated by the Tyros pass though. It will be generated from ANY mike under the same gain staging.
They Tyros has a great noise gate. Using that with the compressor should eliminate standby feedback issues. I have found using them will reduce feedback....Also reverb can create feedback issues as well. Mess with those. At 8 feet you should not have feedback issues,

We did a show last weekend, where there were two L1 systems and I was no farther than 8 feet in front of either tower which were 12 feet apart. The vocals were loud and we dialed in the EQ and had no feedback issues going direct using a Yamaha MG mixer.

If you still want an outboard reverb, try the nanoverb from Alesis. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NanoVerb

[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 05-23-2009).]

Kingfrog, Does the nonoverb have xlr inputs?



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God Bless,
Mikey

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Mikey....the Nanoverb has two 1/4" inputs and outputs...no XLR.

Maybe a Vocalist or something like that is what you need, Mikey? It will have XLR inputs, decent pre's and vocal compressor and EQ, good reverb AND a decent harmonizer. FAR better than your Yamaha, at least.

Plus foot control for harmonies, reverb on/off, etc..

BTW, feedback is not JUST about gain staging. It is also a function of where the speakers are. By being behind you, the Bose system makes this a lot more critical... Possibly a good quality headset mike might help here, as your head would always be blocking the mike from the speaker behind you...?

I had the same problem coming out of my KB into my L1. I used #2 with proper tonematch setting with the Nanoverb after that and it worked fine. However, I bought the T1 mixer because of multable matched outputs and great effects, and found it to be the best for me.

Don took down his sign at this gig.

Jerry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA10vX0vYRw&feature=related

Jerry, that's funny, love it. The 2nd time I used my Bose at a nursing home, some little old lady said maybe he's going to do that pole dance I've heard about. That's no BS it's a true story.

Mikey, whether you want to try or buy, I have a mint TC Harmony-M. Drop me a line if you're interested.

Cass