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#264316 - 05/25/09 02:45 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Nedim,

I think you are100% correct - Ketron would never look at this site, if they did you wouldn't get answers to your questions.

Cheers

Tony

Perhaps you are right about all your other comments.

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 05-25-2009).]
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#264317 - 05/25/09 02:59 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
And maybe their sales in America (or rather, the lack thereof) are a result of them NOT lurking here and finding out what people actually want?

If you only satisfy your current customer base, little chance of it growing...
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#264318 - 05/25/09 05:45 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Nedim Offline
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Staten Island, NYC
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
[B]If you only satisfy your current customer base, little chance of it growing...


You and few others cursed at my Western Styles when i released them and on the other
side there is customers that Bow down to those styles (of course not on the forum here).
My point is, they dont care about this or other forums, nor i care about it since we know
a forum is of 4-5 members which are not satisfied with anything nor they need anything
nor they are buying anything. Trust me, the ones that wanted Audya they already bought
it, didnt even probably look at this forum at all.
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#264319 - 05/25/09 09:26 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4391
Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:
..... Trust me, the ones that wanted Audya they already bought
it, didnt even probably look at this forum at all.


Nah, I don't trust you on this one, simply because there is too few Audya out
at the market. To me it looks like it's the Eastern Europe who got the most, or
at least got most people inside shops to play for uploading videos....
Also I'm very sure that Ketrons people peek into the fora around, they're eager
to see the reactions, even if they don't pay any atention and bother to reply
at any treads.
Regarding the manual, it's a shame they release a product as complex as this and
just deliver a Quik Guide. To me it looks like they target only the customers
that already are very familiar to Ketrons products.
There is much more to it than just press a preset buttton and play as it is.

Cheers
GJ

Btw, try figure out how many Audya Ketron shipped world wide. Not many, probably
not even passed 50, surely not 100!
But that's natural, as you know, till now it's just a Beta Test Version.
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#264320 - 05/25/09 09:48 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Registered: 04/01/01
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Loc: Norway
Wops, maybe on the way out of the Beta Test mode?
Found this link Ketron Forum, OS2 released: http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/001277.html
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#264321 - 05/25/09 09:51 AM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Registered: 04/01/01
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Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Wops, maybe on the way out of the Beta Test mode?
Found this link Ketron Forum, OS2 released: http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/001277.html


Or direct link, click software when page loaded for english "how to do" and download: http://www.ketron.it/prodotti/index.asp?idTipo=2
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#264322 - 05/25/09 12:54 PM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:
You and few others cursed at my Western Styles when i released them


Way to overreact, Nedim... You are quite the drama queen.

Nobody cursed them. They just didn't like them. Different story. Where you come from, if you don't like something, do you say 'I curse it!'?

But it perfectly illustrates the dilemma. A style maker, from Romania (or somewhere like that, sorry if I got it wrong) steeped in Balkan music, trying to make American styles, and utterly confused (to the point of paranoia) why few were impressed.

Nedim, what do you think of Balkan styles created by people that are not from the Balkan tradition? Do you like them? And, if not, does this mean you curse them?

If you are selling styles (not cheaply, either), the customers have a right to expect a product that competes with the best of the ROM from the arranger you are creating for. For Romanian music, the field is wide open (there AREN'T any Romanian styles in the ROM ) so comparison isn't a problem. But for Western styles, unfortunately, there's a standard. It's what comes in the arranger when you buy it. If your styles are as good as these, people buy them. If they are not... well, they mostly don't.

If that's a curse, it's self inflicted.

But it still doesn't address that your styles, just the same as the ROM ones, are still hopelessly out of date to attract NEW players into the arranger market. You are making styles for the existing market. Nothing wrong with that, it's good business sense for a small style maker. But the manufacturers themselves, with MUCH deeper pockets and the very ones that would benefit the MOST from growing their market share into areas that don't buy arrangers now, they are the people that SHOULD be doing this.

Or, within ten or so years, the arranger market in the US will dwindle to close to what the 'home organ' market is now. Virtually gone.

Cursed, I suppose you could say...
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#264323 - 05/25/09 06:49 PM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I received a phone call from CMC distributors here in the USA last week. I was told that Ted would be receiving a few more Audya keyboards May 26 and I would be getting one to have at my store from this shipment.\

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#264324 - 05/25/09 06:52 PM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Great news George can't wait to read your honest review....was there any mention of stock for purchasing?

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#264325 - 06/15/09 11:46 PM Re: HOW MANY AUYDA IN USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Hi All,

The trails gone cold - what ever happened to all those Auyda's being shipped and snapped up?

Keep on ketroning "Doh"
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