I raised Audya up and bashed at it whatever but i never gave up on PA, it is still a machine
that no other would substitute, there is just no way in hell, just take the style editor on PA:
It is a complete full sequenecer where you can do as much as you can on Cubase, i mean anything.
Oh, this goes for the stupid PA50 too, thich is now maybe 800$.

Oddly enough Nedim.., I'm quite confident that given the Triton based sound engine on the PA-50 and its internal editing options.., I could probably pull off some very nice modern styles on it--even though it's pretty dated now.

One of the reasons I was looking at the PA is as you stated..., GOOD MIDI USE. If I get the PA it'll function as my stand alone hardware unit.., but would then double as my keys for my software set up.

It is your choice but all i can say is that once you get it you would NEVER EVER regret it,remembet those words.

I'm not considering the PA-50.., just wanted to make a point as to its abilities to create modern styles compared to some of the others out there. The PA I'm lookin at is the PA2X.

Then you wont need an arranger for the next 10 years...if you are a true musician and not like me.

How about Break/fills? Try playing a few Ray Charles songs without the Breaks. For my use, good breaks/fills are far more important than a Sampler or micro style editor. I can find all the styles I need very easily these days without creating them.
I do agree there should be a Style Creator, but I don't really care, because I won't use it anyway. I do use the facility to revoice, change volumes, mute parts etc., but I haven't had to create any styles since I dumped, I mean sold, my Korg. With that you do need a style creator, because there just isn't much of a variety of the styles I use available.
This could well be the case with those of you wanting more "modern" styles such as hip-hop, ethnic, "dance", etc. If this is the true, then you probably should not consider the Audya until the Style Creator is available.
I suspect than not more than a handful of the people slamming Ketron would buy one if it were perfect in every way (as if that would ever happen with ANY arranger) because of the price. It's o.k. Everybody doesn't need a Mercedes or Lamborghini. That's why Yamaha sells so many Fords.
DonM

Regarding the Audya:

10% will say "I'm getting one!"
50% will complain that it's too expensive, heavy, flimsy, no style creator, no sequencer, etc.
30% will say "it doesn't have enough modern sounds and styles in it!"
10% will say "maybe I'll get one someday".

Of the 20% who indicated that they might or definitely would purchase, 0.5% will actually do so, yielding total sales of 4 keyboards.

How can people say that's its flimsy if just a few have them. I can agree in part with rest but, Ketron was never known for flimsy. I sure the styles creator and other feaures will come down the pike soon enough. But the issue of why people bash ketron simply becuase its too expensive for them to buy.

flimsy..."Having little substance or significance."

I sell all the big guys, and each company has their strong and weak points.

I love the PA series, but there are allot of styles that are missing, and I don't like how the fills can not be activated when hitting a variation, ex fill to variation, they have some work around but not to my liking.

Yamaha has great styles, and plenty of them, covering everything, hate the latin section, but they are 2 short, most of them are 2 measures long. vocalizer/mic input is sub par. great solo voices, but they don't have an easy way to select right hand sounds, if your playing a style that has 1 touch setting all set, and you want to play a sax, you have to make sure you have the selected R1, and turn off the others if they are on then select trumpet. Korg has Performances which has everything from layers to effects all set.

The Audya is a very expensive piece of machinery, but so far the company has been helping to mold it with updates and addtions.

I'm not saying this will be the best, but they are trying and hopefully get closer to it's value

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