Oh meh gorsh..anything smaller than 60MB's?..not excited in the least about having a 8+hr D-load session.

Trust me on this one, Mr9000... You wouldn't want to download this even if it were a 96kbps MP3...

I'll save you the trouble. Think of the worst, most stripped down style with barely anything going on in it, holding the ONE chord for the duration of the piece. Now add some out of sync (slightly late, due to the latency issues) tabla loops that firstly, didn't compliment the style in the first place, and secondly did not match the EQ of the initial style.

Basically, imagine James' piece (you SHOULD download that!) and then imagine something as far away from it as it is possible to get, quality and playing-wise...

Lionstracs should give me one and I will write all their demo's for them. That is if the OS issues are resolved.

How on earth they can make this keyboard sound so bad is beyond me when it loads VSTi's.

A product specialist is badly needed here, one who can actually play and is technically minded.

James

Completely agree. I have a MS and I am amazed by its sounds. I am using the old Edirol Orchestra and the sounds are great as well as the powerful sounds from some Vst synth engine. I don't use it as an arranger because I use an older Os (2.8) which has no Live Styler installed and I don't have the time and patiente to edit styles. I use it as a sound source for Vst, Mp3 player and the wonderful fatar keyboard and I'm very happy with the Ms fulfilling what I expected to do with it. But I really don't understand why Dom has not made a good demo by an expert to promote this keyboard. On the other hand I don't think he should offer a Ms to any of you to try it. He should have an official player (who knows what he has to say and show) like any other brand promotes their products.

Victor

[This message has been edited by vagro (edited 08-16-2009).]

Again, what that demo shows is the MS is all about the user.

As the last demonstrator stated he was using the MS to do a demo with the wrong OS.


The thing with the MS is what you put in is what you get out.
And, I have been saying this for a long time, Dom need not post here on SZ and he needs a person who can produce good sounding demos. All he has to do for startes, is find a style, change all the sounds to VSTs, play a song using that style, mix it and do what ever to make it sound good and put it up as an MP3 demo. Once he has done that, then he would be on his way to also getting the attention of the arranger market.

If it is as simple as that, why has no-one succeeded?

Demo after demo of music that only painfully demonstrates that NO-ONE has the skill to do what you just said. Look at this seriously. A whole team of the most highly qualified professionals is what is needed to voice and style the Big 3's arrangers. Guys with amazing musical chops AND technical chops...

And now, we are supposed to do this all by ourselves? The thing that drives me crazy is, after years of producing absolutely terrible demos for his product, and proving quite conclusively that he (and all the people he HAS hired) completely lack the skill to do this, Dom STILL expect us to be able to do it...! I swear, if the factory can't get it right, how does he expect his customers to get it right?

Since i am aware of my woeful grammer skills,i might have to add dyslexia to that also.Seems Media station and Delorian are the same exact words of symilies to me..

No, actually, normal people could drive the Delorian...

I have said this before, but I think it is an apt simile. If you are looking for a car analogy, imagine a T3 to be a Ferrari. In that case, the MS is a 'kit car'. It is a highly powerful, incredibly technical car (let's say a Bugatti Veyron, for example) that arrives at your door COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED!

YOU have to put it together. YOU have to test it. YOU have to troubleshoot any problems. All without a manual!

How many of us would be capable of building a Bugatti from the ground up by ourselves? All we want to do is DRIVE...

Dom has a Corvette (or used to, at least). HE didn't buy it in pieces and put it together himself. Why does he expect us to be able to do what he can't do himself?

The problem with Dom is that he does not have a good demonstrator in-house or someone on contract.

And he has not learned the art of simplicity (look at how difficult he makes getting good video and audio for a demo seems).

Look, the fact that the MS has styles that some of us may not like is not the issue. The question is how simple is it to change it to our liking. That is what Dom should be concentrating on.

But that's the whole point... IF it were that simple to change it all to the way we like it, surely SOMEONE would have done it by now..?

There are plenty of user demos up that come close to the factory demos for most of the 'closed' arrangers. But, after four or more YEARS of the MS being out in the hands of users, what have we to show for it?

Dom doesn't need to demonstrate how EASY it is. He needs to show that it is even POSSIBLE