well, they are old styles made new, from MS, X, & SD

so KETRON, AJ, let's hear them, posts demos on the site.


from ketron.it
"The styles are obtained from the very much appreciated library that KETRON has produced and installed over recent years on its arranger keyboards of the MS, X and SD series."

"The styles developed and integrated with the brand new and unique audio guitars sound, made available for Audya, maintain the feeling, the harmony and an overall sound similar to the original ones."

Still waiting for the promised "Old/New" styles for the Midjay Plus/SD5.
Ciao,
Jerry

Here a listing from the Ketron Italy web site. And yes, it seems that some of them are from the SD5.
Claudio


@SLOW_BALLAD
@POP_BALLAD_1
@POP_BALLAD_2
@NICE_BALLAD
@POP_SONG
@GENTLE_R&B
@MEDIUM_16_ BT
@16_BEAT_1
@16_BEAT_2
@ELECTRO_BALLAD
@8_BEAT_1
@8_BEAT_2
@HEAVY_BEAT
@ENGLISH_TUNE
@EUROPOP
@NEW_TITLE
@GUITAR_BALLAD
@NEW_BALLAD
@COUNTRY_BEAT_2
@CLASSIC_BALLAD
@FOLK_MELODY
@FOLK_BEAT
@70'S_BEAT
@8_LIGHT_FOLK
@MODERN_POP
@ITALBEAT
@SOFT_BEAT_1
@WONDER_LIFE
@COUNTRY_BEAT_1
@SOFT_BEAT_2 @8_BEAT_BALLAD
@8_FOLK_ROCK
16BEAT_1_SD
16BEAT_2_SD
16BEAT_3_SD
16BEAT_4_SD
16UPBEAT_SD
6-8_BALLAD_SD
70'S_BEAT_SD
70'S_POP_SD
8BEAT_1_SD
8BEAT_2_SD_(R)
8BEAT_3_SD
8_BALLAD_SD
AFTERHOURS_SD
EASY_BEAT_SD
GUIT&ORG_SD
ITALBEAT_SD
LOUNGE_SD
MOVIE_SONG_SD
NORAH_SD
PNO_BALLAD_SD
POP_12_8_SD
SOFT_BALLAD_SD
@ARGENTINO
@BEGUINE_1
@ITALPOLKA
@MAZURCA (R)
@WALZ_ROMAGNOLO
@TARANTELLA
@SLOW_FOX
@FOX_TROT
@MODERATO
@SWING_FOX
@BEGUINE_2
@ENGLISH_WALZ
@H-GULLY_1
@H-GULLY_2
@MEDIUM_FOX
@QUADRIGLIA
@SHUFFLE_FOX
@SLOW_WALZ
@TANGO_ITALIANO
@WIENER
SMOOTH_FOX
SOFT_POLKA
SOFT_WALZ
BEGUINE
POLKA (R)
SLOW_BEAT
TANGO_1
TANGO_2
TARANTA
WALZER
BRUSH_POLKA_SD
BRUSH_WALZ_SD
ENGLISH_WALTZ_SD
FOXTROT_1_SD
FOXTROT_2_SD
FOXTROT_3_SD
FOXTROT_4_MS
FRANCAISE_SD
IRISH_WALTZ_SD
MARCH_6-8_MS
MAZURKA_1_SD
MAZURKA_2_SD
MAZURKA_3_SD_(R)
MAZURKA_4_MS
MEDIUMFOX_SD
MODERATO_1_SD
MODERATO_2_SD
MUSETTE_SD_(R)
POLKA_1_SD
POLKA_2_SD_(R)
POLKA_3_SD
POLKA_4_MS
QUADRIGLIA_SD
QUICK_STEP_SD
SALTARELLO_SD
SLOW_FOX_1_SD_(R)
SLOW_FOX_2_SD
SLOW_WALTZ_1_SD
SLOW_WALTZ_2_SD
TANGO_1_SD
TANGO_2_SD
TANGO_3_MS
TARANTELLA_SD
WALTZ_1_SD
WALTZ_2_SD
WALTZ_3_MS
WIENER_1_SD
WIENER_2_SD @APACHE
@BLUEGRASS
@COUNTRY_BEAT
@COUNTRY_QUARTET
@ON_THE_ROAD
@KRAMER_BALLAD
@OLD_CNTRYWALZ
@ROCKABILLY
@WALKING_FOX
@COUNTRY_ROOTS
@IRISH_WALZ
@COUNTRY_FOX
@COUNTRY_SURF
@IRISH_FOX
@IRISH_SLOW_FOX
@QUICK_STEP
@UP_COUNTRY_1
@SOFT_BALLAD
@WESTERN_1
@WESTERN_2
@UP_COUNTRY_2
@FOLK_ROOTS
@IRISH_WALKING
BALLAD_12_8
COUNTRY_BALLAD
COUNTRY_DIXIE
COUNTRY_WALZ
BLUEGRASS_SD
CNTRY_BLD_SD
CNTRY_FOX_SD
CNTRY_POP_SD
CNTRY_ROCK_SD
KRAMER_SD
NASHVILLE_SD
ONTHEROAD_SD
SLOW_COUNTRY_SD
WESTERN_SD
WESTRIDE_SD @EURO_DANCE
@DISCO_DANCE
@DANCE_HALL
@DISCO_FEVER_70
@DISCO_FUNK_70
@DJ_DISCO
@LIQUID_FUNK (R)
@LATIN_DANCE_1
@LATIN_DANCE_2
@REGGAETON_1
@ELECTRO_DANCE
@MINIMAL_TECHNO
@ROCK_HOUSE
@REGGAETON_2
@MODERN_SOKA
@HANDS_UP
@GIPSY_DANCE
@DISCO_NIGHT
@DISCO_70'S
@VILLAGE_FÊTE
@TECHNO_GARAGE
@TECH_HOUSE
@AFRO&BASS_1
@AFRO&BASS_2
@AFRO&BASS_3
@AFRO_HOUSE
@DEEP&BASS_1
@DEEP&BASS_2
@ELECTRO&BASS_1
@ELEKTRO&BASS_2
@FUNK&BASS_1
@FUNK&BASS_2
@HOUSE&BASS_1
@HOUSE&BASS_2
@LATIN&BASS_1
@LATIN&BASS_2
@LATIN&BASS_3
@TRIBE&BASS_1
@TRIBE&BASS_2 @DISCO_70'S_2
@DISCO_FLAVOR
60_REVIVAL_SD
D-FLOOR_SD
DANCE_1_SD
DANCE_2_SD
DANCE_3_SD
DISCO_1_SD
DISCO_2_SD
DISCO_3_SD
DISCO_BAROQUE_SD
GIPSY_SD
HOUSE_1_SD
HOUSE_2_SD
HOUSE_3_SD
NOCHE_MIX_SD
RUMBA_DANCE_SD
FOLK LATIN POP
@MARCH_4_4
@MILONGA
@PARISIENNE
@PIZZICA
@TAMMURRIATA
@PASO_DOBLE
@PAQUITO
@SEVILLANA
@RUMBA_NAPOLETANA
@SALTARELLO
@JIGS
@QUEBEC_FOLKLORE
@REELS
ALPEN_POLKA
ALPEN_WALZ
BAROQUE
CAN_CAN
ESPANA_HIT
MEXICAN
OBERKRAIN
PASO_DOBLE_3_4
SIRTAKY
CELTIC_SD
FADO_SD
HABANERA_SD
JIGS_SD
MARCH_SD
NAPOLETANA_SD
PASODOBLE_NEW_SD
PASODOBLE_SD
P_DOBLE_3-4_SD
P_DOBLE_4-4_SD
REELS_SD @BALADA
@FAST_BOSSA
@SAMBA_JAZZ
@BOLERO_2
@TECNO_MERENGUE
@PUERTORICANA (R)
@MAMBO_SALSA (R)
@RUMBA_BEGUINE
@DOMINICANA (R)
@GUAJIRA (R)
@BOLERO_1
@BOSSA&SALSA
@CUBAN_CHACHA (R)
@MERENGUE_1 (R)
@SAMBA_LIGHT
@ITALBACHATA
@SALSA_CUBANA (R)
@LIVE_BOSSA
@VILLERA
@SAMBA_MOOD
@CUMBION
@JLG_BACHATA
@MEDIUM_BOSSA
@REGGAE_BAND
@BAJON
@DISCO_SAMBA
@LATIN_BALLAD
@MAMBO_HIT (R)
@CALIENTE (R)
@MERENGUE_2 (R)
@CUMBIA (R)
@BACHATA
@CHA_CHA_1
@MAMBO
@CHA_CHA_2 (R)
@BALLENATO
@BOSSA_LOUNGE
@SON_ANTIGUO
@LATIN_JAZZ
@RUMBA_FLAMENCA
TROPICAL
SOKA (R)
ANTILLES_SD
BACHATA_SD
BALADA_SD
BATUCADA_SD
BEGUINE_1_MS
BEGUINE_2_MS
BEGUINE_3_SD
BOSSAMIX_SD
BOSSANOVA_1_SD
BOSSANOVA_2_SD
BRAZILIAN_SD
CALIENTE_SD
CHA_CHA_SD_(R)
EURO_CHA_CHA_SD
JAZZ_SAMBA_SD
LATIN_JAZZ_SD
LATIN_POP_SD
LATIN_ROCK_SD
MAKOSSA_SD_(R)
MAMBO_1_SD
MAMBO_2_MS
MERENGUE_SD_(R)
MOD_BOSSA_SD
NDOMBOLO_SD_(R)
RAPIDO_SD REGGAETON_SD_(R)
ROMANTICA_SD
RUMBA_FLAM_SD
RUMBA_SD
SALSA_1_SD_(R)
SALSA_2_SD
SALSITA_SD
SAMBA_SD
VALLENATO_SD
ZOUK_SD_(R)

PARTY

@PARTY_POLKA_1
@PARTY_POLKA_2
@PARTY_FOX
@SCHLAGER
@ORGELSAMBA
@SHUFFLEBEAT
@SCAND SCHLAGER
@PARTYSAMBA
BOARISCHER
OBERWALZ
OBERPOLKA
DISCOFOX
SCHLAGERGRIECH
SPATZENBEAT
TANZPALAST
CTRYBALLAD
SCHLAGERWALZER
DOLOMITENPOWER
DOLOMITENBEAT
ALOHA
DISCODREAM
FLIPFOX
FOX_70
HAPPY POLKA
JIVECONIE
ORGELPARTY
SCANBUG
SLOWROCK_6_8
SUMMERREGGAE DANCE_ROCK_SD
DISCO_CHA_CHA_SD
DISCO_SAMBA_SD
FLIP_BEAT_SD
H-GULLY_1_SD
H-GULLY_2_SD
H-GULLY_DAN_SD
HIT_POLKA1_SD
HIT_POLKA2_SD
HOWY_HITS_SD
KASTELBT_SD
LIMBO_SD
MACARENA_SD
MENEITO_SD
PARTY_FOX_SD
PARTY_GRV_SD
PARTY_POLKA_SD
SCHLAGER_1_SD
SCHLAGER_2_SD
WOLLEMIX_SD
WOLLE_SD




@16_POP_ROCK
@ACOUSTIC_GROO
@FUSION_FUNK
@TREND_POP
@HIP_HOP
@EASY_FUSION
@ELECTRIC_POP
@EMOTIONAL_R&B
@LATIN_R&B
@ORIENTAL_R&B
@ACOUSTIC_POP
@SUBWAY
@LOUNGE
@BROKEN_BIT
@SHUFFLE_POP
@SOULFUL
@LIGHT_POP
@R&B_BALLAD_1
@R&B_BALLAD_2
@SMOOTH_FUNK
@OLD_SCHOOL
@FUNKY_1
@RAP®GAE
@CHILL_OUT
@TRIPLET_POP
@RUMBA_RAP
@FUNKY_2
@DOWNBEAT
@BRIT_POP
@98_POP
@SOULFUNK COOL_FUNKY_SD
ENGLISH_TUNE_SD
FOLK_SINGER_SD
FUNKY_1_SD_(R)
FUNKY_2_SD_(R)
FUSION_SD
LIGHT_POP_SD
POP_CHART_SD
POP_FOLK_SD
POP_MIX_SD
R_N_B_SD
STREET_SD

R&ROLL ROCK&SOUL SWING UNPLUGGED
@JIVE
@SLOW_ROCK_1
@SLOW_ROCK_2
@ROCKER
@SHADOW
@PARTY_R&ROLL
@RETRO_ROCK
@SHUFFLE
@R&ROLL
@STAGE_R&ROLL
@SURF
@HIP_SLOW_ROCK
@RETRO_SLOW_R
@SLOW_12_8
@SLOW_BLUES
@TERZINATO
@VINTAGE_SLOW_R
BLUESMAN.PAT
@TWIST
BOOGIE
OLD_JIVE (R)
POP_60
POP_ROCK
R&ROLL_1
R&ROLL_2
SLOW_ROCK
TWIST
60'S_POP_SD
BOOGIE_WOOGIE_SD
BUGG_1_SD
BUGG_2_SD
JIVE_SD_(R)
POP_TWIST_SD
ROCK&ROLL_1_SD
ROCK&ROLL_2_SD
SCANDFOX_1_SD
SCANDFOX_2_SD
SHUFF_FOX_SD
SLOWROCK_1_SD
SLOWROCK_2_SD
SLOWROCK_3_SD
SLOWROCK_4_SD
SURF_SD @AMERICAN_ROCK_1
@POWER_ROCK
@POP_ROCK
@STREET_ROCK
@STUDIO_ROCK
@BLUES_NIGHT
@R&BLUES_1
@SHUFFLE_BLUES
@ROCKING
@60'S BLUES
@METAL_ROCK
@AMERICAN_ROCK_2
@R&BLUES_2
@R&BLUES_3
@ROCK_SHUFFLE_1
@STAGE_ROCK
@ON_THE_ROCK
@GARAGE_ROCK
SOUL_POP
BASICROCK_SD
BB_ROCK_SD
GOSPEL_SD_(R)
HARD_ROCK_SD
R&BLUES_1_SD
R&BLUES_2_SD_(R)
ROCKING_SD
ROCK_BALLAD_SD
ROCK_SHUFFLE_SD
SHUFFLE_BLUES_SD
SOUL_1_SD
SOUL_2_SD
USA_ROCK_SD @BIGBAND_1
@BIGBAND_2
@BIGBAND_SLOW
@JAZZ_COCKTAIL
@JAZZ_QUARTET
@ORCHESTRAL_SLOW
@JAZZ_WALZ
@FAST_BEBOP
@SWING_1
@SWING_2
@CHRISTMAS_FOX
@GOGO (R)
CHARLESTON
DIXIELAND (R)
JAZZMAN
JAZZ_5_4
MANOUCHE
SHUFFLE_FOX
SLOW_FOX (R)
SWING3
BIG_BAND_SD
BLUES_BLD_SD_(R)
BLUES_SD_(R)
EASY_JAZZ_SD_(R)
JAZZ_WALTZ_SD
ORCH_SLOW_1_SD
ORCH_ @16BALLAD
@ANDALUZ
@BALLAD
@BEGUINE
@BLUEGRAS
@BOSSA NOVA
@COUNTRY ROCK
@COUNTRYBEAT
@COUNTRY_POP
@FAST_ SAMBA
@GYPSY
@MAMBO_SHUFFLE
@MEDITERRANEAN
@SLOW_ROCK
@SMOOTH_FOLK
@SOUL_FOLK
@SURFIN
@IT_TARANTELLA
@WESTERN_BALLAD
@FADO
G_ANDALUZ_SD
G_BALLAD_1_SD
G_BALLAD_2_SD
G_BOSSA_SD
G_BRASIL_SD
G_COUNTRY_1_SD
G_COUNTRY_2_SD
G_COUNTRY_3_SD
G_FLAMENCO_SD
G_POP_1_SD
G_POP_2_SD

Lee, i am serious, if you really think buying and Audya just buy it. After that if you need
or missing something i will sign a paper with a lawyer before you buy that i will provide and devellop any sound and style you want.
Cuz if i was as stubborn as you are all this wasted time buy now i would've either bought the damn instrument or i would've given up.
We both know you'll never buy one even at its best.

i own many keyboards,
can never have enough
i may or may not buy, we'll see
i just wish the hardware specs were better, and that it had more modern sounds...

one thing is for sure, it is the best keyboard for MY type of music

I thought you COULDN'T develop styles on the Audya, because of the nonexistent tools to create and edit, and the non-existent tools to transfer live audio loops into it...?

I'd take him at his offer, lee, then sue the pants off of him for breach of contract!

(As we have some non-native English speakers here, let me add, all the above is tongue in cheek - and I hope THAT doesn't mean something else in Turkish, too! )

No offense Nedim. But I can create the styles I need better than you or AJ or anyone on this forum. And this is not being cocky. I am Portuguese you are not. I know exactly how I want my styles to sound. At the same token you can create Turkish syles way better than me.

What we need are the tools to create these styles which Audya does not have at this time

If he has an SD1 he could create a style on that and it would play on the Audya. Also, on the Audya, a style does not have to have audio loops.

What's the point of playing a file on audya from sd1 if it does not have audio?

In that case. Keep your 5000 dollars in the bank

I agree with you, you are completely right but i was trying to make another point, not that.
My point is that you tried every Handle to put it on the EGG...meaning, no matter how
good it will get you wont buy one, the ones that buy are not here and already have theirs.

Well you buy a 50 000$ Truck/Kamion and then drive material to your house with the car.
Leave the Truck parked in the backyard...thats the point...lol.

I think you underestimate how many would buy an Audya (or MS, or Wersi, etc.) if it actually DID what it was supposed to...

I would have an MS right now if it did what the best arrangers already do, and THEN added the VSTi features. I would already have an Audya if it streamed multiple channels of audio and responded to ALL the chords, allowed you to edit styles, create new ones and easily import new drum grooves and other guitar libraries. Oh, and easy import of Akai libraries and had the 512MB RAM that was initially announced.

I would be HAPPY to pay even these inflated prices for something that already did everything my current arranger can do, then ADDED all the extras... Sadly, to get these machines, you have to give up considerably features to get the new ones. None of them come without some considerable loss. Yet cost a lot MORE. And I might even have an Audya if it was priced the same as a T3, given that I would be gaining some things, and losing others. But I can't justify paying a fortune for something that doesn't even do what my POS outdated Roland does

The time to start telling people what they will and won't buy is when there is a compelling reason why they SHOULD buy something, and they still don't...

The point is, whether justified or not, most persons on the forum would not buy an Audya the way it is now.


Its just like most persons would not buy a T3 the way it is now.

Well, there's a heck of a lot more people buying T3's 'the way they are' than Audya's!

I guess the way it is is good enough...

Admittedly, the T3 is but an incremental improvement over the revolutionary T2, so fewer T2 users felt the need to upgrade immediately, and most of those that chose something other than the T2 didn't see anything new enough to change their minds from the last decision they made to not get a Yamaha. But anyone coming in cold to Yamaha for the first time got themselves a pretty damn good piece of gear, with few bugs (no dealbreakers) and no 'missing' features. And at little more than the T2 cost, unlike the SD-1/Audya hike in price.

Oh yes, and still roughly $1500 less

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 05-29-2009).]

The point being again is that for most there were deal breakers for not getting a T3 i.e. no 76 keys, no true sampler, lackluster drums ….

And for most there are deal breakers for them not getting an Audya no sampler, no style editing, price ….

The same thing goes for persons not getting the G70 when it first came out. Terrible sounds and styles, too heavy, no hard drive, no MP3 play back or recording ….

Main difference being that Yamaha never promised 76 keys or a 'true' sampler, Roland never promised light weight or mp3's, and DOES have a HD (and your opinion of the T3 and G70's sounds and styles is solely that ), but that Ketron promised the moon when the Audya was announced...

Multiple streaming audio, multitasking, full Akai compatible sampler with 512MB RAM, full editing, user audio import...

Then didn't fully deliver.

That's, as far as I am concerned, a BIG difference.

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 05-29-2009).]

We must put this in perspective. What category you belong to?
There are 3 types of 'owners' for this market:
1) The collector
2) The home player
3) The professional

For the collector, any one keyboard is good, but the price must be right. He will wait for the drop in price...nu rush...

The home player needs something like the T3...the looks of the organ...lights, big screen...cozy looking and does not matter how long it will take to set up next song.

The professional must have a keyboard with a modern look, fast to get to next song and versatile. Price does not matter; it is a tool and get you more work then is worth.

Cantanapoli

So YOU say....

Most pros I know care a LOT how expensive something is, especially something that doesn't work as well as something cheaper... But we don't give a damn what it looks like, as long as it does the job. Pay the rent, feed the kids, get us re-booked.

All i care about is which synth is mostly used and nothing beats Korg for now, if i dont know
that already noone else will, unless the R and Y
users dont need styles and sounds.

Mostly used where? By whom? In what country? To play what?