I'm surprised you weren't impressed John. You don't work for Yamaha do you? Just kidding.. Did you listen to the demos through a decent sound system John? If not then that could be the problem. What I got from the demos was an excellent "live" band feel. Most of the sounds the demonstrator(s) played I thought were outstanding, although I noticed it was mainly just Piano, Guitar, Organ, and Brass with the 'main' focus on the Guitars. There was no real String(s) or Woodwind demos (flute, oboe, etc.) and not much in the way of Synth sounds really. I'm guessing Ketron is wanting to stick with the meat and potato sounds and keep the spinach and broccoli under wraps and out of sight perhaps. In other words, just showcase the best and leave perhaps the "tepid" rest of the sounds to the imagination.

Perhaps Ketron will do another batch of videos that will highlight some of the other sound categories too. The more we know about its sounds, the more informed of a decision people will have to open up their wallets and fork over the big bucks if need be. And I mean BIG bucks.

BTW, I have an excellent sound card in the PC I listened to the demos with and an outstanding 3 piece Klipsch speaker system that are especially made for bringing out the true quality and nature of any given musical piece. Believe me when I tell you that if the sounds I heard in the video demos (which are actually 'compressed' .avi) are as good in person as they are through what my ears deduced while listening to them through my Kplisch PC speakers, then without a doubt the Audya exceeds everything else currently on the market in my humble opinion. For instance, there is NO other arranger that I'm aware of that even comes close to the quality of guitar sounds on the Audya in my opinion. The Accordion(s) were fantastic too; EP's as well, along with everything else in my opinion. Of course most of the guitars in the demos were "audio" sampled guitars but nevertheless there is still no comparison to the rest of the pack if you ask me. I can't imagine that any of the sounds could somehow be diminished when playing it Live in person either. On the contrary, the Audya should sound even better live and in person. Now if we could just get Ketron to drop the price a couple grand eh? The price tag is the biggest obstacle in most people's way of getting an Audya right now, especially in these dire global economic times that we're currently experiencing. Even if they only dropped it a grand their sales would probably double in no time I dare say. I know, I know.. keep dreaming right?

All the best,
Mike


[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 06-27-2009).]

If you really comparing S900 to Audya then i should say i feel sorry for you, i know it all
comes down to personal taste but still...not that personal Funny...i wont even compare T3 with it.

I listened to quite a few of the demos in Musicial area's I like...Well, I know the Ketron has Issues to correct,etc...But I really LIKE what I hear!

First the Styles: I LIKE the Live Sound. Not a whole bunch of umm-Baa Baa stuff,2-3 Guitars,Hand claps,Midi file Sounding ...Just a Real Sounding Small Band playing off each other!...Punch,Punch,Punch...

Sounds...Most Important to Me...Piano..EXCELLENT...Sounds Great with DYNAMICS...Just hearing it, wants Me want to play it!...For Me I think it Works in a Band or Smooth Solo...Organ...Sounds Great...Now Sax and Horn...For me I still like these and some others(Korg,etc)...They Have BITE for fast passages and PLUS you can use the Mod wheel to be in control,Plus Volume pedal...To me the Yamaha is Great for the Solo Slow stuff, but anything else it hurts You somewhat...The Old Ketron Sampled Golden Trumpet is still the warmest and Bold Trumpet to me....Love it...

I know Everyone has their Thaughts which is completely different from mine I'm sure....That's Good...Have a Great Day!...Back to Work Outside....Harold

John,

if you are no impressed with those Demos of AUDYA...
then why don't you post some of your Demos from ANY other arranger and comapre side by side to these

record those same styles from YOUR arranger, so we can understand what good styles are supposed to sound like

There is NO OTHER ARRANGER with the quality of styles, the clean "cutting sound", the LIVE IN YOUR FACE sound... the KILLER DRUMS

i own the G-70, and it's styles can't compare,
Merengue on G-70 a joke
Salsa on G-70 a joke
Bossa on G-70 a joke
Cha-Cha not even close to AUDYA
Disco 70's on AUDYA awesome

are we listening to same keyboard?

http://music-tyros.com/en/audio/index.html

btw lee do you own an Audya?

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Dnj,

i do not own an AUDYA

BTW, those Tyros 3 Drums are a JOKE when comaparing to AUDYA's

So, isn't this somewhat like a bunch of people with average cars, getting all worked up about the pros and cons of the latest Lamborghini? Sure... it goes 0-60 in under 3 seconds. But you can't put the family in it, heck, you can't afford to even have it tuned up

OF COURSE, a $5000 arranger damn well ought to sound amazing. Thing is, sound isn't everything. Flexibility, ease of editing and style creation, logical panel layout, and the likelihood of continued style development at an affordable price are considerations.

I really liked the demos (didn't listen to them all, but at least ten), and in fact have said how good the Audya sounds from the first day they posted decent audio demos (BTW, why the hell are these up as videos? Audio would have been sufficient). However, the sound ALONE is but a small part of the whole arranger experience. For $5000, I expect that and much more.

The sound I already get, for how I use it, is more than sufficient. To gain the extra realism of the Audya (for certain, but by no means ALL the sounds), I would have to give up FAR too much that I take for granted on my G70. AND pay a boatload more money. Editing ease, operational ease, flexibility and customizability are VERY important to me. When my current arranger does such a good job, why would I give up all that I need, for a bit better drums and guitars (didn't hear much else dramatically improved)?

When this technology matures, and becomes available at a more down to earth price, then I will revisit it (by then, perhaps all the editing and style creation abilities will have been figured out, and more chord choices for the audio will be possible. But until then, I can wait.

And the very vocal fanboys can put a poster up in their dormrooms, next to that one of the Ferrari F50, that they also will never actually BUY! It's great to dream, but if you actually have enough to REALLY buy one, some of the more practical considerations come into play...

What I don't understand is why insult other peoples instruments. The drums and sounds on the Tyros 3 are far from a joke. And comparing with a instrument of more then 5 years old (G70) isn't also very fair.





[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 06-28-2009).]

Gee Diki "I'm not all worked up"... I just responded to a post someone kindly put on the Zone...And Yes I can't afford the Ketron Now...But I responded to the Post to MY feelings only!...Again There are really alot of GREAT arrangers on the Market Now...That is Wonderful...Including the G-70 that suits Your every need, You keep reminding everyone...Even when We don't ASK...

Have a Great Day...Harold

Guess that's what I'm doing, also... OK with you?