New S-910 and S-710 vids on YouTube. Not the best vid.., actually rather boring as the guy just runs his mouth for 4 minutes instead of showcasing sounds and styles. Where's Bert when ya need him....?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWljavqyn0

Yeah, pretty boring, but thanks anyway Squeak.

The main question concerning the S910 is what new voices does it have?

We know it has MP3 playback. We know that it has a new color screen and white buttons next to the screen. We know that it has 17 new styles. We know that it has nothing else new except for the voices.

There was a thread some months ago about a coming PSR-S950 with some specs that leaked out from Yamaha. These specs had 400 styles plus sampling and optional hard drive. I'm wondering if this PSR-S950 is going to come out next year.

A fellow who seems to be in the know at www.yamahapkowner.com called the PSR-S910 a midterm upgrade (saying that it would come with some unexpected goodies). Midterm upgrade would imply that there is a real upgrade coming.

Beakybird

I for one will wait to see if there is going to be a S950-at the same pricepoint. What good would a S950 be if it comes in for considerably more money, yet, why go for a S910 now, if this time next year, or even Winter 2011 a S950 comes out at the same price as the 910.

Boy you guys are a tough audience. That's what Sweetwater asked for..

Ask away,

The PSR S-S910 is a pretty hefty step up in several ways.

P.S I'm the boring guy ;-)

Hi,

I for one am looking forward with great anticipation to the 910 as an upgrade from my 3000, So please, won't you inform us what features of the Tyros 3 are NOT included in this board and then we'll all have a clear understanding of exactly what's being offered. The current info is a little sketchy, to say the least.

Kind regards,
Henni

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Model PSR-S910 PSR-S900 PSR-S710 PSR-S700
Voices 656 Voices 392 Voices 359 Voices 317 Voices
23 Drum/SFX kits 19 Drum/SFX kits 19 Drum/SFX kits 16 Drum/SFX kits
11 World Voices - 11 World Voices -
5 World Drum Kits - 5 World Drum Kits -
10 Organ Flutes - 10 Organ Flutes -
480 XG 265 GM2 GS XG GM GS 480 XG 265 GM2 GS XG GM GS
Polyphony 128 128 128 96
MegaVoice 18 15 15 10
Super Art 38 23 0 0
Sweet! 23 22 22 11
Cool! 39 26 26 18
Live! 25 20 19 14
Organ Flts Yes Yes Yes Yes
Styles 322 305 232 205
OTS Viewer Yes - Yes -
Aud Player WAV/MP3 WAV WAV WAV
MultiPad 123 Banks/Sync Yes 103 Banks Yes
Reg Viewer Yes No Yes No
Text Viewer Yes Yes Yes No


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Model PSR-S910 PSR-S900 PSR-S710 PSR-S700
Voices 656 Voices 392 Voices 359 Voices 317 Voices
23 Drum/SFX kits 19 Drum/SFX kits 19 Drum/SFX kits 16 Drum/SFX kits
11 World Voices - 11 World Voices -
5 World Drum Kits - 5 World Drum Kits -
10 Organ Flutes - 10 Organ Flutes -
480 XG 265 GM2 GS XG GM GS 480 XG 265 GM2 GS XG GM GS
Polyphony 128 128 128 96
MegaVoice 18 15 15 10
Super Art 38 23 0 0
Sweet! 23 22 22 11
Cool! 39 26 26 18
Live! 25 20 19 14
Organ Flts Yes Yes Yes Yes
Styles 322 305 232 205
OTS Viewer Yes - Yes -
Aud Player WAV/MP3 WAV WAV WAV
MultiPad 123 Banks/Sync Yes 103 Banks Yes
Reg Viewer Yes No Yes No
Text Viewer Yes Yes Yes No

1.Does the PSR-S910 have SA2 voices? How many?

2. Does the PSR-S910 have the same guitar voicing in the accompaniment as on the Tyros3?

3. Does the PSR-S910 have a new effects processor for the organ voices?

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1: The sounds are SA sounds since the new engine is based on the Tyros 2. There are 38 new Super Articulation Voices. The new voices are taken from the Tyros 2 and Tyros 3. At this point, the SA2 voices are reserved for our flagship Tyros 3.

2: Yes. it uses the new SFF GE the same as Tyros 3. there is also new effects and styles for the guitar.

3. I know there are new effects, as for organ... I'll get back to you on that one..

Thank you kindly.

Does anyone know if it has a new piano voice or the one from the t3? Did they improve the sound system like they did for the 710? thanks Ron

Geosync. Thank you for the information. If you or anyone has detailed specs about what exact new voices and styles will be appearing, then that would be great.

Otherwise, we'll have to wait until Yamaha posts the manual online.

Beakybird

So it looks like the PSR-S910 will have the same amount of these voices as the T2:

Mega
Sweet
Cool
But will have only 25 versus 58 Live! voices.
And will have only 38 versus 42 S.A. voices

The S910 will have 5 new drum kits. We will find out if any of these are Live! Drum Kits.

The S910 will have 322 styles versus 400 for T2. Of course, these missing styles are available and will sound better on the S910 than they do on the S900.

This new keyboard will be pretty much as good as a T2. Advantage: onboard speakers, mp3 playback. Disadvantage: some missing live voices and no ability to load samples.

For those who want those SA2 voices but aren't willing to ante up more than $1600, we will have to wait another two years or so.

Beakybird

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Hi everyone,

I've read all I could find on the 910. Seems to me that instead of being a baby version of the T3, it is more closely related to being a full version with a few extras to the T2.

I think I have a little longer to wait before upgrading from my PSR-3000 - She served me well up to now.(That's unless I can somehow find a low priced 2nd hand T3)

Henni

Here are just the differences in voices between the S900 and the 3000:
Mega 18 - 10
Super Art 38 - 0
Sweet! 23 - 14
Cool! 39 - 18
Live! 25 - 19

I thought the S900 already blew away the 3000. With this new keyboard you would be getting tons of styles that simply won't sound the same on the PSR3000. I don't know what your needs are or your budget, but you should at least try the S910 out before you conclude that it's pretty much the same as what you got. Or maybe you tried out a T2 and made that conclusion already.

Beakybird

Two things I, personally, would miss from the 3000 would be the the ability to sit down and clearly see the display, and loosing the Smart Media Card storage. Yeah, I know it has a USB drive, but you need to remove that when transporting. The Smart Media Card is almost like having a 128-meg hard drive in the keyboard.

Gary

Gary I agree with you about the card storage. I'm not sure I'd want the limits of the older smart media cards.., but I think they should be making these things to take SD cards rather than use USB thumb drives.

Being able to leave that card in the drive was very nice and was like having a little hard-drive in the keyboard. My old Casio WK-3500 used smart media cards (along with the floppy). I loved that little SM Card as load time was quick and the card was always in the unit

Why aren't they using SD cards more on these arrangers? Don't some of the Casio's use SD cards now? I would much rather have an SD card than the thumb drive option.

I still think a good thing to note is the improvements in the S-710. The new "better contrast screen" and the poly bumped up to 128 notes, AND it now having USB audio recording are VERY good upgrade features. I was very surprised to see these jumps in a model coming in under the S-910. Both models now having better screens, sharing USB audio recording, and the same poly count is a good move by Yamaha.

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I never missed the screen on the PSR3000. I have no trouble reading the screen on my PSR-S900 while sitting. Evidently, the PSR-S910 comes with a better color screen.

The Smart Media storage was very nice. For me, however, having two identical keyboards, it is better to store my stuff on a USB pen drive that I keep secured to my keychain and which only gets removed at my gigs. Any changes I make with styles, registrations, text files, etc. - stay with me on my USB, so the experience I have with my keyboard at home is identical to the experience I have with my keyboard at the gig.

The PSR3000 doesn't load text files, and I love this feature! I use the text files not only for chords and lyrics, but for some of the one liners I use! When I had the PSR3000, I used to carry sheet music with me. Now I keep everything I absolutely need on text files on my thumb drive.

Now if the Smart Media card held styles like user memory that would come up on the Music Finder Database, then that would have been cool.

Anyway, to each their own.

Beakybird

Does the new 910 have aftertouch?
That's big for me,
Lee S.

Hi,

Not putting the S910 down in any way. I just expected, just as the PSR3000 is a baby T1, the S900 a baby T2, that the S910 would be a baby T3. Slightly disppointed that it's not. Not critisizing it at all, I just expected more. Would be silly to buy and next year the S950 comes out being the actual baby T3 at the same price as the S910.

My brother has the S900, so I have played with it a bit.

Keep well,
Henni


"I thought the S900 already blew away the 3000. With this new keyboard you would be getting tons of styles that simply won't sound the same on the PSR3000. I don't know what your needs are or your budget, but you should at least try the S910 out before you conclude that it's pretty much the same as what you got. Or maybe you tried out a T2 and made that conclusion already.

Beakybird"

It's not at all shocking to me if it's not a baby T3. Remember Yamaha sometimes does this. There was the same issue with the PSR-2000 and PSR-2100. The next model will probably be more like a baby T3.

I am still somewhat confused by this. If the new SA voices are taken from T2 AND T3, wouldn't they (at least the T3 ones) include SA2? Or are there SA1 voices in the T3 that the T2 doesn't have? And what, exactly, is the difference between SA1 and SA2 other than those buttons?

Oh, and for all you calling this merely a baby T2, don't discount the importance of the T3's new Guitar NTT's and effects. To be honest, this looks like a deciding factor for me. I can live without an Irish Bagpipe (got a fairly decent one in the G70, anyway ), but better guitar voicing is a strong plus...

BTW, I agree that Yamaha have done a VERY poor job of providing sufficient on board memory and the right kinds of external storage. My so-called 'long in the tooth' G70 (and all the other E series arrangers) have a SSHD on board (admittedly, the E50/60's is not much bigger than the factory ROM styles and UPG's) and a recessed Card slot (does it really MATTER what kind it is, so long as it works? ) that can accommodate up to 4GB cards. All of which is addressed by the Registrations with no regard to source. You can have tens of thousands of styles instantly (no load up time) available at your fingertips ..

This SHOULD be the norm. Why it isn't beats me. Oh, and on the GW-8/Prelude's, and on the Juno series, even Roland understand that a USB pen drive sticking out is a recipe for damage or theft, and provide a recessed, closeable section to put your pen drive in and keep it safe.

If I were you, I'd be making noise about this NOW. When (or if ) I get a Yamaha, you can be sure I will!