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#268019 - 07/23/09 01:44 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
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Originally posted by cassp:
$ - maybe I should have waited and bought an S900 or a T2. I'm getting so confused.



I should've have had you sit your butt down Monday and played my T2 for a bit. What did you think of the sound?

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#268020 - 07/23/09 07:06 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
cassp Offline
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Loc: Motown
With the morning comes... more confusion. I should have sat down at that T2, Bill. It sounded so good, especially thru your L1 system; and you played it so well... and I even brought my 3K along to play or compare, but we never got to that. I've gotten so much good advice, there's no way I can follow it all, but I do believe I have to get my hands on a PA800 before I decide on one of those.

It would seem silly at this point to abandon my newly acquired 3K without even giving it a chance to disappoint me. It really is a good keyboard, not near as bad as I sometimes feel. But the G70 is becoming another story. I can't continue to wrack my brain over two opposing OSs and style systems. The Roland definitely has a more 'live' sound, but the Yamaha is no slouch. I've got to run thru some songs and see how feel for me.

My wife understands little of this folly and only asks, do you have the money to do this? She also admonishes, you've only played a few jobs and you're already buying new keyboards?... She thinks I'm somwhat crazy.

I'm going to sit down with both boards for the next week or two and try to decide if either or both are worth replacing. With the G70 and case weighing 50lbs+, I can't see me using it out live too often. I really don't need a home keyboard, I still have my Hammond XK1 and a Kurzweil MK5 sitting around collecting dust already. I might just float the G70 out there and test the waters; I certainly won't give it away just to get rid of it.

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#268021 - 07/23/09 07:36 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
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Originally posted by cassp:
With the morning comes... more confusion. I should have sat down at that T2, Bill. It sounded so good, especially thru your L1 system; and you played it so well... and I even brought my 3K along to play or compare, but we never got to that. I've gotten so much good advice, there's no way I can follow it all, but I do believe I have to get my hands on a PA800 before I decide on one of those.

It would seem silly at this point to abandon my newly acquired 3K without even giving it a chance to disappoint me. It really is a good keyboard, not near as bad as I sometimes feel. But the G70 is becoming another story. I can't continue to wrack my brain over two opposing OSs and style systems. The Roland definitely has a more 'live' sound, but the Yamaha is no slouch. I've got to run thru some songs and see how feel for me.

My wife understands little of this folly and only asks, do you have the money to do this? She also admonishes, you've only played a few jobs and you're already buying new keyboards?... She thinks I'm somwhat crazy.

I'm going to sit down with both boards for the next week or two and try to decide if either or both are worth replacing. With the G70 and case weighing 50lbs+, I can't see me using it out live too often. I really don't need a home keyboard, I still have my Hammond XK1 and a Kurzweil MK5 sitting around collecting dust already. I might just float the G70 out there and test the waters; I certainly won't give it away just to get rid of it.

[This message has been edited by cassp (edited 07-23-2009).]


Cass-

Look at my online schedule and see if any of my days off match up well for you to hook up, ok? Maybe the 29th? We'll find a place to meet and spend some time with both boards, ok? For the level that you're working at, the 3k should do a very nice job.

My gut says sell the G7 and the 3k and pick up a t2 or t3...Also, take your wife out to dinner...If she's not happy, no one is, eh?





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#268022 - 07/23/09 07:40 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Cassp, it all boils down to pleasing yourself.

I have had several people tell me that I should like the Tyros3 more than the S900...but, I don't.

I really don't have to justify my preferences to anyone, but suffice to say, I just connect better with the S900 as an arranger....I like the keybed, I like the built in speakers, and I like the sound.

It is a true "portable" keyboard.

I felt the same way comparing the the 3K and the Tyros1...I liked the 3K much better.

The S900 and 3K aren't perfect, but they are/were perfect for me, and it's me that I have to please...no one else.

The audience can tell when I'm more pleased with an instrument...and ultimately, we both are winners.

If you aren't using a keyboard for more than a few months, it may be time to pass it on to someone else who will.

Hope this helps a little bit.

You know you're going to displease the Roland supporters (especially the ones that hate Yamaha ) if you sell the G70 and start using a Yamaha...personally, I don't care what brand you go with, as long as you are happy with the result...that's the bottom line, and the thing that's most important.

Please yourself, whether it be a Roland, Yamaha, Korg, Audya, or whatever.



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#268023 - 07/23/09 11:06 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
BEBOP Offline
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Registered: 01/02/00
Posts: 3781
Loc: San Jose, California
Cass, I have a similiar problem.
My two active keyboards on the stands are Rolands top board, the E 80 and Yamaha top board when I bought it, the Tyros 2.
I will soon need to sell one or the other as We are once again going to be traveling full time in the motorhome.
I play one for a week and think wow, I will keep this one.
Then I play the other one for a week and think, No, this is the one I must keep.
This has been going on now for a year.
When I play the E 80 I play all big band music, boogie, Jazz, etc.
When I play the Ty2 I play mostly blues, and country.
I just can't decide on which one to keep or even if I could replace both of them with something else????
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#268024 - 07/23/09 12:14 PM Re: What do you think of these prices?
cassp Offline
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Loc: Motown
Join the club, friend. Although I find I'm more comfortable playing just the opposite on my G70 and 3K. See how personal preference is the key. Good luck in your choosing, I think I'm getting closer to a decision. BTW, if you decide to sell the T2 please let me know.
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#268025 - 07/23/09 01:15 PM Re: What do you think of these prices?
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Cass,
I am only about 3 hours from you.
I have a PA2XPRO hooked to great Mackie HR-824 monitors.

The sounds are the same as a PA800 and the OS is the same too.

If you like, you can drive down and check it out sometime. I had a T2, sold it and bought the Korg. Glad I did...but..you must be the one to decide what works for you personally.

Lee S.
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#268026 - 07/23/09 04:56 PM Re: What do you think of these prices?
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Cass,
I'm a big KorgPA800 fan, but I also would also recommend you try one ( or even Lee's PA2X) before you buy.
As Lee said, operating system is the same, styles are the same, a couple of ex pa800 owners say , the sounds ( to them) are slightly better on the PA2X compared to PA800 , but at least you'd get some idea if it suited you or not.

Maybe check out the Korg forums, maybe somebody there could recommend where you may be able to see one that's a bit closer to home.

The PA800 has had to major upgrades since I bought mine over 18 months ago (free).
The first one 1.51 added Guitar Mode recording, ( a single note records a guitar strum. Full strum ,4 string strum,slow strum, up & down, plus individual notes can also be recorded, plus a heap of effect noises like thumps, fret noises etc). Only used for style tracks, it's not a realtime function for melody.
They upgraded a number of styles with Guitar Mode tracks & a number of new guitar voices.
The last one just before Xmas, added the new DNC voices, some new styles.
Also if style editing/creating is of any interest , they upgraded the style import /export as midifile function. Instead of importing/exporting a single style part to a pc sequencer for editing, the whole style can be imported/exported. That's great for people who prefer to use a pc sequencer instead of editing/creating onboard.

The multipad function on the Korg is also great. It has an additional sync function that psr's don't.

And just in case Donny's around, the pads don't play thru the endings anymore. That was one of his gripes.

See if you can try before you sell everything.
best wishes
Rikki
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#268027 - 07/24/09 06:26 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
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Loc: Motown
Lee, thanks for your offer. I will definitely keep you in mind.

I think this is all Nigel's fault; those PA500 ads running across the header are irresistible.

I've settled down somewhat and am giving both boards a chance to win their keep. I have them side by side in the music room and continually play styles and songs on both for comparison. I will continue to scour the net, especally Korg forums, to find a Korg near me.
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#268028 - 07/24/09 07:25 AM Re: What do you think of these prices?
vagro Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 321
Loc: Argentina
Keep your G70, sell the 3k and buy a much cheaper pa500. It has a lot of functions like the the pa800 at less than half its price, bad keybed though.
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