http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCdJHolcoLc

Enjoy

Bill

Bill. Nice one ! Good Style was it a conversion from another keyboard I wonder.

It was a midi file, produced by Roland for a demo of one of their keyboards around 1999 - 2000

Hello my friends!

I´m the young guy, who´s playing this stuff!
I´m a little bit surprise, about your sentence. I made everything by myself. I don´t know anything about a midi file by Roland. It could be, that Roland made it in this time, but I didn´t use it in my creation.

I used my pegasus for playing and the cakewalk sonar 8 for recording software. I made some different effects in recording, to make the song so authentic like the origianl song from celine dion. Well, I heared some opinions, that the song isn´t my work and I´m very very tired about this opinion because of my hard and long work for this :-(

However, I thank you very much for listening my song. If you would like to hear more stuff of me, visit my channel http://www.youtube.com/user/kilney ;-)

Thank you, that you take your time for reading my message and I have to apology fo my terrible english!

Best regards from germany!

Robert

Hey Bill, thank you very much for showing my song here in the communty! You got something good to me ;-)

I wish you a nice sunny day!

Best regards from germany

Robert!

Quote Robert:
I´m the young guy, who´s playing this stuff!
I´m a little bit surprise, about your sentence. I made everything by myself. I don´t know anything about a midi file by Roland. It could be, that Roland made it in this time, but I didn´t use it in my creation.
Well, I heared some opinions, that the song isn´t my work and I´m very very tired about this opinion because of my hard and long work for this.

Hi Robert,
As I am the only one who referred to the Roland midi file, I presume that it's my opinion which has upset you.
I would never purposely put down a fellow keyboard player - I believe goodwill should reign supreme on forums such as this. However, without wishing to belittle you or denigrate your performance, my observation was made on the grounds that the backing (not the right hand part) is exactly identical to the one on the midi file. It's quite obvious that Roland also ensured that their work sounded as authentic as the Celine Dion original and, although it's not an impossible coincidence, I myself, have never heard two identical performances of any song before. Although I always use a style when playing Titanic in public, I must have spent many hours playing along with the Roland midi file and am familiar with every note / inflection of the song as played by the midi - as a result of this exactly identical sound, I decided that this backing must be the work of Roland (with a few extra little bits added & some volumes changed slightly).
I did enjoy your rendition of the song and I'm sorry if you are upset by my remark but
I still find it hard to accept two such coincidentally identical backings as the work of two different people.

Incidentally, there is a style for the Titanic theme, converted for most brands of keyboard, knocking around on the internet -
I don't know where the style originated but, this style is also, without any doubt, derived from the same Roland midi file.
Sorry again Robert, but best wishes anyway,
Tony
Don't worry about your English - far better than my German!

This is not directed to Anthony Johnson but to the forum in general.

It is effective to give negative comments as long as it accompanied with twice as many positive comments. If not, you are not received well by the performer. Better said; The good with the bad because no one like just the bad. There that was kind.

Once more great Job Robert, John C.

Dear Tony,

Thank you for your statement! It doesn´t matter ;-).

But you´re right, that there´s a sequenz from roland (After your statement, I chearched it in google and found it ;-)). I was really wondering, that their and my version haven´t any differences.

But I swear, that I didn´t use any midi file or style. All my music, I made by ear without notes and I always hear a song again, again and again to found every little accord and instrument, what is integrating in the original song, to sound my version really authentic! Cakewalk helps me, to get it so great, too.

I thank you very much for your information about the roland version (I keep it in my back!). It´s very important for me, because of knowing it for further statements for the future (for my version).

Best wishes for you, my friend!

Robert ;-)

Thanks Robert, for a very nice reply!
Don't worry about it mate - as I explained, I wasn't trying to demolish you at all, but really just answering Graham's query about what style you had used. The main thing is that we all get such enjoyment from our music (and from each other's music) and it's nice that we can share our views, knowledge and enthusiasm with others who share the same love of music / keyboards etc.
Very best wishes to you,
Tony

Sorry to tell you Robert, (Anthony is right) 'your' creation is a 100% copy of Midifile 98038GS produced in 1998.

Funny so many members did not notice you're fooling them
(e.g. finger timing)

I think a lot of members noticed, but because of the desire to avoid a potential controversy, decided not to say anything. Whenever there is a conflict between an old member and a newbie calling attention to himself, I'll trust the old member every time.

chas

Thank you but I cannot say anything, that I recorded every instrument of this song in my cakewalk and in my pegasus! I didn´t use any midifile, I unfortunaly have to say this again!

But I respect your statement.

I´m very dissapointed that you think I´m fooling the people! That´s not right! Is that so, my other creations are all a copy of a midi file however it was.....

"Your" words are not very friendly!

But at least, I had a many conflicts about this song (what makes me a little bit tired)and I will delet this video in youtube!

I don´t want to fool someone, that´s not my finish! I only want to give people my love and fun for the music!

Thank you for your statement!

Best regards Robert!

Sorry, kla4, but finger timing gets all messed up in Youtube videos (audio is rarely ever in good sync). You'll also notice it is a two camera shot, or more accurately, a one camera shot, shot twice It is likely that one of the 'takes' was miming over the original track (actually, as he said that he had assembled this in Cakewalk, possibly both takes were mimed).

Plus, I've got that Roland file, and while there are a lot of similarities, there's a few significant differences. Just listen to the fill at 1:40. Thing is, either BOTH MIDI files copied Celine's version pretty faithfully, or if he used the Roland file, he certainly edited the bejeezus out of it!

Either way, it sounds great...

Don't take it down Robert...

It is just that, on occasion, we HAVE had members here try to pass off commercial MIDI files as their own work, so you can maybe understand where some of the comments are coming from.

So, just to clear the record up, you ARE stating that EVERYTHING in this track is your own creation, it isn't you playing the lead and chords (as we can see from the video) over a backing track that you found on the 'net?

If so, that's a real good job you have done here... and if you are using a web track for backing, it is STILL a good job voicing it for the Pegasus and good playing on the lead

Thank you diki!

I want to tell you, how I made the song:

At first I listen to the original(I think that´s clear ;-))

After that, I learned the accords and the melody for playing (only by ear without notes!)

I recorded the melody (singing part) in cakewalk. After that a recorded every instrument in the song to cakewalk. I did that, because of hearing the song again again again again again, a.s.o.

After that, I "pushed up" the instruments in cakewalk (it´s clear, that the pegasus can´t sound like the video is showing) with some effects. I wanted, that the song is like the original.

For the video, I recorded 3 o 5 videos in different positions. One for the pan flute at the beginning, one for the organ sound /singing part, and so on...

It´s possible, that there are some asyncron videos in the song, please forgive me, because I recorded the video by live playing for 10-20 times again again and again, because I made a lot of mistakes by playing.
It could be, that there is some of the "silly" video in the final cut video!

Well, in the video, cakewalk is running in the back and plays the background of this song, what I saved in.

For the video, I played the parts (pan flute, singing melody) live! and pushed them up with effects in cakewalk later.

With my left hand, I only touched the accords of the song (that´s right!!) (special for the video - I think it seems to be better, because this song only with the right hand? ughhh - I would´nt take it in youtube only with one hand!

In the end, I took the audio and the video record together in Corel VideoStudio 12.

Well, I hope that I could explain my project to you a little bit! (in my worsest english I have ever written!!!)

I thank you very much for your interest for reading my statement!

The video is down from youtube, now

Best regards robert!