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#268643 - 08/03/09 11:48 AM
Re: My thoughts on the Podium 1502's...WOW
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I played an outstanding venue in Panama City FL yesterday. They had a HELL of a good PA system... All JBL PRX series FOH and monitor systems... First time I've played through those (I have used an SR series pair of passives for quite a while and LOVE those) and I have to confess, I was blown away (almost literally!) by the 12" monitors they had on stage. Superb clarity, 500W RMS (1000W peak) power built in, switchable system EQ for either FOH or monitor use, and, dig this... bombproof construction, built in power, and still only 40 lbs.! On top of that, the venue provided vocal mikes, and get this... they were all Neumann KMS 104/5's A superb $700 microphone with air for days. I WANT ONE! Finally, something in a handheld that blows away my EV 767a...! All LED lighting system, Allen and Heath split console mixing board, house engineer... Even a dedicated, reserved parking spot in the crowded parking lot for the band van! I thought I had died and gone to heaven! But all this was for just another beach bar and restaurant, albeit a pretty large one, not some fancy theater venue... After seeing so many of these kinds of venues go cheap, nasty and sonically horrible, to get to play a place like this was a total pleasure. This was with a live reggae band (but I still just use my G70 ), and I play there again next Sunday. At long last, a beach gig with a house system I'm actually looking FORWARD to BTW, place is called Pineapple Willy's, if you want to look it up... Anyway, Fran, you want a reference to judge those Podium's against, stack 'em up against a pair of JBL PRX's and let me know how they compare... Yes, yes, I know, the JBL's are triple the price of the Podium's But seeing as how everyone else wants to compare the Podium's to the $2500 Bose systems, I thought maybe a comparison to a great conventional system might be interesting, too...
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#268649 - 08/04/09 02:02 PM
Re: My thoughts on the Podium 1502's...WOW
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Originally posted by Fran Carango: ...and I am glad they do..... Because it would be SUCH a pain to have to put them on a lightweight dolly, wouldn't it? Price notwithstanding, it's interesting to compare them to the JPL PRX's. They also make a 500W RMS 15"+horn, roughly the same weight, etc. But while the Podium's claim a 'sensitivity' of 103db with 25-20,000 Hz Frequency Response, the JBL's (whose figures I trust a LOT more, anyway) claim Rated Maximum SPL : 133 dB SPL peak. Whether those two figures are directly comparable, I don't know, but I must admit that the max SPL is the ONLY figure that ought to be on every speaker's specs (maybe with a max THD along with it).... What's the POINT of 500W if it is running into a less efficient speaker...? Truth is, most musicians only want to know two things... how LOUD does it get, and how clean is it when it gets there.? Do Podium make a little sub, yet? I would think that, for the majority of us OMB and arranger users, those little 8" ones, if matched with an equally small powered sub (just the one) would do the vast majority of the gigs we have, without compromising the low end. Something like that little EV one, I mean. Lugging two 55 lb. speakers around, just to get a bit of REAL depth seems overkill. And stick those 15"-ers up on poles, you'll lose a fair bit of depth, anyway. So, if Podium are lurking, how about a nice small powered sub like the EV?
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#268651 - 08/04/09 04:50 PM
Re: My thoughts on the Podium 1502's...WOW
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Most subs have a crossover built in, with a high pass output jack. You feed full mix to the sub, it sucks out the lows, then you feed that to your top cabs...
Alternatively, if you just need a little extra depth, and aren't trying to get the system as loud as it can go, you just feed the mix (in mono preferably) to the subs, and full mix (in stereo) to the top cabs. As long as there isn't a big forward or backwards difference between the subs and tops (phase issues), it works fine.
Yamaha mixers, and some others too, I think, have a dedicated mono out. Some of them even have a crossover for the mono out if your subs DON'T have an x-over...
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