Hi All,

I have had an Auyda since around May we have had 3 upgrades and it's still not right, some of the problems are basic, button sequences etc main page style does not match with the style and I am still finding the KB locks up, my OS is the same as your if you are up to speed 2.0C, are the samples really any better than Tyros3, are they much better, are they £1000.00 better, I don’t care if we get a new revision of OS every week it only takes minutes to load, but Ketron need to keep up with the problems. I play my Audya about 4 hrs every day, not that I get any better at playing, but I am finding button sequences frustrating, some buttons don’t work if others are down, every time you press Micro or Vocalizer the menu pops up, my car radio has more about button control. I write software program myself and the code to drive the button on the Ketron must be humongous, but they are the experts, we just the end users and we should have it right tomorrow not wait, they may never get it right, I sure they will, but when.
You chaps appear to be raving about the Audya, someone throw me a comfort blanket tell me it is much better than Tyros 3 and my ears are going before I trade it in, I don’t have your patience any more!

Regards to you all.

Tony

Hi Jose



Whoops, I wasn't suggesting you make use of it like me, I was merely saying I'd love to have the Audya sound in GIGA format for my own one.

As for External HDD's, no I just use a OCZ memory stick. It can do about 35MB/s I blieve which would be faster than a portable HDD.



I find it greatly depends on what your running. If you stick to Sample Lord and use Giga files or whatever else sample lord reads, you can't go wrong. You get a minimum of 64 notes even when running mulit tracks and I guess that will go up to 156+ notes when the CPU upgrade comes out.

Sorry I don't have any drum libraries I can recommend. All my drum libraries would be orchestral based. For standard kits I just use what's on my OASYS.



Probably not now, but certainly when the CPU upgrade comes providing you use Sample Lord.



Memory is not so much of an issue if you use the right software and stream everything. Sample Lord only partly loads each sample to memory so the RAM usage can be very low and so far I haven't come across a sound I couldn't load.



Nope don't have one, I'm just someone who has spent a lot of time with the keyboard as I was helping out with sales for a music store.

My opinion on the keyboard is quite simple really. It plays and sounds bloody fantastic, but the OS is incomplete. KETRON are obviosuly working away on the OS so in general the experience with the KETRON is a pretty positive one all round.

My only beef would be the price tag. For what it cost it still trails FAR behind in factures when compared to the competition. That said, at the end of the day it does what matters most effortlessly which is, it sound damn good.

Regards
James

Just wanted to clarify some points mentioned above:-

1. AUDYA SAMPLER:- As of OS 2.0, AUDYA can load samples (wave format) and Multi Samples. The SAMPLER-EDITOR is fully functional (meaing once you've copied Wave files into the HD of the AUDYA, you can now make your own sounds/Multi-Samples directly on the keyboard). You can assign, edit, cut, develope ... etc wave files and use ... all in your AUDYA! What you cannot currently do (until 3.0) is create/record wave sounds/files, but if you have already created these elsewhere, you are set to go/use them on AUDYA.

2. STYLE EDITOR:- As of OS 1.0b, AUDYA can EDIT styles (with the AUDIO STYLE MORPHING) feature. There are drum, bass, guitar [more guitar, bass and piano coming in OS 3.0] audio banks which you can use from/to any style and save as a new custom/user style. With 3.0, Ketron will release the PC/MAC STYLE CREATOR and later, this tool will be available on AUDYA to allow you to CREATE your own styles from SCRATCH!

3. REGISTRATIONS. The registration tool on the AUDYA (for now) doesn't save intro/endiging(in the sense that if you call up a registration which was saved with a style in Ending/Intro, the style will start playing from the variation that was saved within the registration once you press START (or with any key prssed to the left of the split point with KEY-START on). The user has to press only one button to recall the registration and one button extra if they want the style to start with an intro/ending ... not more than that. Everything else is saved within the Registration ... plus more. As a step further, the AUDAY also saves wav, MP3, midifiles ... etc within the Registration ... yes. So within a BLOCK Registration (which can be made up of 20 Single Registrations), you can occupy the 20 spots with Single Registers, MP3, WAVE, STYLES, text ... etc and instantly have access at your finger-tips on the screen!

Just thought I'd elaborate a little more.

Thanks,

AJ

The trouble being, with the sampler, that the Ketron will only load up a multi-sample AFTER you have created it. You can't, AFAIK, load a soundfont multisample, or, even more importantly (because it was promised for the Audya), Akai import.

As anyone that has labored to create a multi velocity drum kit, or piano set, or any other complicated sampled instrument knows, the chore of loading all the hundreds of samples, and mapping them to the notes and velocity ranges is tedious and slow. Akai and Soundfont import would simplify the process, and also open the Audya to a vast library of ready to go, high quality sample sets of just about any instrument you could imagine...

When is the promised Akai import going to arrive, AJ?

Did you know if you have the Audya registration button down the MICRO and VOICETRON buttons don't work!

Tony,

When pressing the Registration, access to the vocalizer/voicetron and Mic were disabled as of 2.0 so as to avoid drastic vocal effect changes when you switched from a registration to another with a totally different vocal setting (unless you freeze the mic settings in the Registration Menu).

It will be re-enabled in 3.0 and you the user can now choose if mic and vocalizer should adopt the new vocal settings per the new registration or maintain current registration voice settings and ignor the new one ... your call!

Thanks,

AJ

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Great , finally The Style Creator in OS 3.0 , and AJ when we can expect OS 3.0 ? And one more question will there be any possibility to create own Live Drum loop ,or to combine differents Live Drums in variations , and there are problems with endings and intros or fill ins when want to input Live Drum on own made patterns in earlier models of Ketron (SD1,X1) , can you imagine to play variations with Live Drums and then comes ending with Midi drums without Live drum.

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KETRON seem to be really moving full steam a head in a big way here. Well done guys.

While normally you should have all this kind of thing done before the keyboard is even released, I have to say that your track record will remain unbroken for a great sounding product. It was an instrument at first, and now it's growing into an Arranger Workstation.

Regards
James

Well,
Audya should be delivered with a delivery date for all work still left that should have
been done before the release, as well as what's planned to do of what they did not find
time to finish before start sell the machine.
On top of that, there is bugs and faults found and/or still to be found by the customers.

I sold my SD1 because I was going to buy Audya, but that will not happen before I feel
it's worth the very big pricegap from i.e. Korg PA2X and Tyros3.
At the moment the "offer price" here is 7400 US$, ordinary price is close to 10000 US$ !!
(For that money I can add both the PA and Tyros to my G-70 and maybe have twice as much
fun?)
Wonder how many Audya sold to end users worldwide, and where the big sales are done?

Cheers
GJ

GJ,

I am a little confused at the whole thing with Ketron, I have an Audya and unless my ears deceive me with age I cannot make this massive difference that the Audya is supposed to have over the Tyros 3, there are thousands of T3 in use and if you look at the number of You tube on T3 and the very few Audya - the sales tell the story. There are probably no more than 30 You Tube sounds bits to look at World Wide for the Audya, and they are not increasing, T3 more every day.
I know that the T3 doesn’t look the professional bit of kit, it’s plastic, but all the You Tube snippets I have heard it sounds pretty good, I play the Auyda and I am not convinced it that much better if at all.
There are a few people who have been faithfully to Ketron over the years, I had an SD1 + and when I look at it now I shudder , finding the files in the DOS window how the hell did we put up with it, other manufactures have touch screens, I know the T3 doesn’t.
I don’t know what the pull is with KETRON but it isn’t at all the sound quality, it’s something else, it’s not the styles, simplify because the best styles on the Audya are those that Ketron decided to make available recently off their early KBs, someone tell me what is going on and don’t tell me it’s sample quality, I would think that Yamaha have better facilities for capturing and manipulating samples than KETRON and more money to get the best sounds.
If you are adamant about the samples quality how do KETRON do it over the giant?
I am not bitching I would just like to know, I know Jose started this very interesting thread, he loves the LATIN sounds from Ketron, the reason the Ketron sound so LATIN it is LATIN.

I have given my Audya back to my supplier to let him see the menu problems first hand and I am borrowing a T3 for a short while.

Regards

Tony