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#269485 - 08/21/09 03:44 PM
Re: Survival or Death to the Arranger keyboard ?
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Does it allow you to copy and paste? That's a pretty handy tool, there... I think that Korg have got the best handle on style creation, allowing you to do it in a computer MIDI sequencer, then import easily to the arranger. No shortage of all the esoteric MIDI editing tools you would ever need. But I feel they need one extra step... the ability to play the style WHILE it is still in the computer, as banging the files back and forth ('save' the style, transfer to the arranger, THEN get to listen if the edit actually worked, then re-edit the style, 'save', transfer to the arranger, listen to see if THAT worked, and so on and so forth ad nauseam ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/tongue.gif) ) is a total PITA. Korg (and actually, all others too ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif) ) need to create a simple 'Style Player' software so that works in progress can be quickly checked as you edit them in place, IMO...
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#269486 - 08/21/09 08:19 PM
Re: Survival or Death to the Arranger keyboard ?
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Hi Diki, don't know. Probably pretty basic compared to what sequencers can do. Yep, luv the Korg import/export function. DEfinately makes style editing easier. One day I may have to look into a better pc sequencer. I'm using PT12 & XGworks, pretty basic. As for the last suggestion, that would be great. Actually I keep forgetting about the Korg pads. I could actually create my phrase library out of multipads. ie mute certain tracks in a style & audition the pads. Then when a suitable combination is created, the pads came be copied into the style itself. Organizing them might be a bit of a challenge. best wishes Rikki Originally posted by Diki: Does it allow you to copy and paste? That's a pretty handy tool, there...
I think that Korg have got the best handle on style creation, allowing you to do it in a computer MIDI sequencer, then import easily to the arranger. No shortage of all the esoteric MIDI editing tools you would ever need.
Korg (and actually, all others too ) need to create a simple 'Style Player' software so that works in progress can be quickly checked as you edit them in place, IMO...
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#269487 - 08/21/09 08:39 PM
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Hi Dave, I must have explained that really badly. What I meant was, just say I'm looking for a style to play a waltz like moon river or fascination, I try the onboard styles first, unless I missed some, I couldn't find one to suit. Next I'll try muting all the tracks except drums & percussion . I think Slow Waltz 2 drums may work. Next I try the bass with the drums, doesn't work, so I have to use a different bass line. Then I'll check to see if any of the other instrument tracks suit the song. Probably clear as mud. haahaa Anyway since a phrase library as such, doesn't exist, I may look at trying to use multipads as a library. I keep forgetting about them. best wishes Rikki Originally posted by WDMcM: OK, now I get it. Sort of like folks using Sony Acid to build songs out of individual phrases. That's cool.
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#269488 - 08/22/09 12:39 AM
Re: Survival or Death to the Arranger keyboard ?
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Sequencer and Keyboard
Just connect the Midi Out of the sequencer to the Midi In of the keyboard, and tell the sequencer to use the voices on the keyboard, then as you modify any settings in the sequencer you will hear how it sounds as if you played on the keyboard. (That’s the way I have always done it since I started with Midi in about 1985, when I combined my Atari ST with my Wersi Alpha Organ) Tip: If you own a Wersi OAS instrument, use Midi 2 for your sequencer, as by default this is set up to directly work with an external sequencer. Hope this helps
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