I installed Windows Vista on one of my comps few days ago and what a ...
NIGHTMARE...the worst thing i've seen in my life...from now on i will just
laugh at anyone who says anything good about this, i just feel sorry for the
people who never tasted a MAC Operating System. This is BAD people,
i am sorry...and also dont tell me i dont know how to tweak and this and
that, i work on computers since 1991, since MS DOS. I had XP on the same
computer and it was alright but this is a nightmare. I feel sorry for users.
For 5 days straight its installing some updates every 5 minutes, every minute
some updates are ready to install...ahahahahaha...
I am sorry, i'll stay on my SNOW baby...this is garbage for kids.

Why O Why did you install Vista when very little good has been said about it. (I would not wish it on my worst enemy)
Even Microsoft recognises it’s a disaster, (Although they won’t admit it publicly) which is why Windows 7 was bought forward.
If you had waited till October you could have Windows 7, which is an absolute beauty in comparison. (The Beta version of Windows 7 made the final release of Vista look poor)
Sorry if I don’t seem sympathetic, (I do understand what you are going through) but all the warnings were out there.
You could try to see if the dealer will do a swap for Windows 7. (Make an excuse for incompatibility problems or similar)
Best thing I can suggest (If you can’t change it) is pop over to the various Vista forums, as they should be able to help you get it to some form of normality.
Best of luck

Bill

Hi Nedim

I've been a happy VISTA user for many years. No problems here on two machines.

I'm also running a beta version of Windows 7 64Bit which is like the best of XP and VISTA in one package plus lots more. It's easily going to turn out to be the best OS Microsoft has ever put out.

Can't wait for all the Multi-touch screens to start pouring out.

Regards
James

Why didnt you stay with a MAC?

If you choose the right hardware, you can run Vista very well....

Keep in mind to install from a fresh created Vista CD containing all upgrades.

Next to that don't install Vista 64 bit when using vst's and such, many vst's are still only 32 bit. Many of htose and other musical apps refuse to work under 64 bit. As they are programmed for 32 bit and their programmers refuse to update them to 64 bit.

Next to that....... i'd stay away from both Windows and Apple stuff..... I'd go with Linux as its free, by supporting Linux and the free BSD community people will finally be free to have their OS as they want it to be.... When people start using Linux more and more, more and more software will be ported to Linux.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519474


no thanx I'll stick with Windows XP


[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-03-2009).]

Hi

I'm using Vista Business on 2 laptops and 1 PC for a long time now, not any problem.
Neither do I see any problems show up on other PC's and Laptop's used by the company
I work for.
For use of older software, just remember to righclick the .exe file in programfolder
and set what compability for file to run in.
The problems I've heard of, are mainly because people run 64 bit Vista and get some
compability problems, both hardware and software.
Myself I run 32 bit versions to avoid not devloped and missing drivers etc.

Regarding updates, yes, if just installed Vista, you have to go through the update
prosess several times until you're ajour and up to date. Later it's usually around
every 10.th in month, and that you can choose to run automaticly.
Once in a while it also it happens there is emergency updates to repair new and urgent
issues reported or detected.

I agree that Vista did not run well at first, too early release, but nowadays, not
any problems.
Anyway, Windows 7 is just around the corner, many happy faces and reports about that
new OS version.

Cheers
GJ

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

Oh, dont missunderstand me, i am staying on a Mac, i had XP on my Laptop and just wanted to
try Vista out but hell no...this is garbage. Lol Abacus, i can return it and will probably.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nedim:
You know Nedim, if things don't suit your needs and wishes it don't
nessesary mean it's garbage.
Most often it's the driver who cause crash and trafficjams, not the
vehicle.

Cheers
GJ

I am a good driver on a computer, you have to trust me on that one, i really know what a good
OS is and what a bad OS is, i am no beginer in
computer world and this is bad, very bad.

All that link tells me .....

People are experimenting with stuff and they end up surprised if things go wrong...

To install Linux, insert CD/DVD and choose install.....

Even better, go here www.knoppix.com and download the CD, insert your CD intoo your PC and Choose boot from CD rom, then you are running Linux from teh CD and can try it without even installing it on your hard drive.

Can someone tell me why Linux isnt main stream....vs Mac/PC os systems?

Because they dont invest millions in advertisement.

Mac OSX is based around Unix. Nuff said

Linux is having a hard time because it IS so open... without proprietary OS's, where is the incentive for the developers to advance it uniformly (which is what app developers need)?

The thing for me is, music, audio and video apps put basically the MOST stress on your computer and OS. Multiple threads running in realtime, VSTi's sucking the life out of your CPU, video and audio/sample streaming to test your data busses to the limits. And now you want to add an 'open' OS to that mix..?

Only the most advanced app developers can get this stuff to work, and now you want them to adapt their apps to an OS that is in a constant state of flux? On hardware in a constant state of flux..? It's no wonder that Mac systems dominate in the PRO world. Stability and reliability (of both OS and hardware) are de rigeur when your entire business depend on them.

Enterprise grade corporate systems don't rely on Windows. And neither should you, IF your living relies on it... IF it's a hobby, no worries. You can AFFORD the downtime while Windows sorts itself out (if it ever can ). Make a living doing video and music production, you had better run something a bit more stable, even at the cost of not being so bleeding edge. There's a REASON they call it the 'bleeding edge'

Yep!!!!

We just bought an HP Touchsmart Tablet PC (Multitouch, with "pinch to zoom" etc just like a giant iPhone) to display all of our Chords/Lyrics - instead of our GIANT books and it works a treat!

We tried it on stage last night for the first time, and by the end of the night we were calling up song after song quickly & easily. As far as I'm aware, Windows 7 has more support for Touchscreen apps and at least it will run faster and cleaner than Vista - using less resources!!

It (should) make our "Giant iPhone" into a much speedier little beast...

BRING ON WINDOWS 7!!!!!!!!!!

Hellboy, interested in your experience with the Touchsmart. I bought one of the first to hit the market (IQ507) and have found it less than practical for 'normal' computer work (in Touchsmart mode). First, your arms get very tired reaching for the screen on a regular basis. As soon as the novelty wears off, you find yourself using it in a conventional way (keyboard and mouse). I can picture it being used the way you're using it on the gig, although I would think it would be rather large and awkward to use on stage. Do you use it for any other applications? Just curious. And yes, I too, am waiting to see if Windows 7 will improve the somewhat impaired performance that the Touchsmart Os imposes on the system.

chas

Sounds to me like the Genuine Advantage Tool didn't take (tool used to verify you have an authentic copy of the OS). And what happens if the Genuine Advantage Tool doesn't install?......none of the other security patches will install.....but it'll keep trying. ;-)

If that's the case, you have to install the GAT manually, then let the Windows Update do the rest.

Switching gears......here's a website I use to stay abreast of Mac vulnerabilities:

http://www.securemac.com/

We've got Macs, Windows, and a small amount of Linux at work. Gotta keep all of them up and running. I have no affinity to software code....they all have vulnerabilities. Still waiting for the perfect OS....and the perfect arranger.




-mike

Agreed Mike... finally someone who knows what he's talking about.

If you want UNBIASED information about Mac vulnerabilities, you need to go to a site that isn't run by a company trying to sell unneeded spyware software..

Every vulnerability that the Mac exhibits comes as a result of the user actively doing something they shouldn't. Take the DNSChanger Trojan Horse, which comes about as Mac owners (who should know better) try to install Snow Leopard downloaded for free from dubious sites. They then install this by typing in their admin password, and there isn't a security product in the world that will stop you from being a bloody fool...

Look, here's the thing. All you PC fanboys. Turn OFF your virus checkers. Disable your spyware blockers. Remove ALL scanning apps. Now meet me out on the Internet. Too scared?

You should be...

Oh, and Mike... would you care to tell us about anything that happened to any of your Macs as a result of malware?

The Touchsmart Tablet we bought is a new one - Model tx2-1216 au (Au being for Australia) and yes, I guess for normal computing work, you probably WOULD use it more normally.

Onstage however, it's definitely best to use it in Tablet Touch mode.

We've used it twice at gigs so far, and rapidly got use to the interface in Word. Like anything, it takes getting used to, (the first hour onstage was Pants wettingly scary) but then, we just relaxed, and are now getting quite confident with it. It's only a matter of time before we're COMPLETELY at ease with it.

The only problem is it can be a little unresponsive - or to be more accurate, it needs to be touched *ahem* just right...

(oooh errr... )

There is one that is not vulnerable to anything, only to people who dont know what they
are doing and it has been out long already, no need to wait.