Thanks James, very enlightening clips.

Can you say how long it took to set up those Karma sections? In particular #3?

Its the randomness of Karma that is attracting me to move away from my PA2xpro and go to the M3 73 instead.

Dennis

It should be possible just by copying the settings from the OASYS into the M3, but it could be a lot of work. I'll have a look and see.

Nothing wrong with arrangers if all your looking for are Styles.

KARMA is an entirely different animal.

Hi Dennis.

I spent only seconds setting up all 4 so I could record them. The 3rd one is actually a factory preset straight off the M3. Not sure I'd dump the PA2X for Karma though if Arranger functions are what you use most. It's just easier to use an arranger for arranger functions rather than to use KARMA.

Regards
James

Thats just it James, I use the PA2x AS an arranger for about 10-15% of what I do.

Others have said I have this "passion" for arrangers, but is not for arrangers per se, more for the total integration of functionality.

I am really over the "sameness" of style patterns. Even if a style is tweaked as a few of mine are, it is still the same pattern everytime you play it...I rarely if ever, use more than two variations on any song that I use the arranger for.

For example, and I really do not like talking about myself much, but in all my playing career, I doubt I have EVER either played a song the exact same way, or played the same solo twice.

Songs are in the same format as in the layout, but my playing is always different.

In fact I have just given up a trad 50/60's R+R dance band because it was too strict. I was not even allowed to use an organ, ONLY piano. Because the band leader reckoned there were no organs in 50's rock+ roll dance tunes...whether thats true or not I didn't really care, but for me they went into the same category as playing for old time dances. I won't do those anymore either LOL.

I probably really should not even be on an arranger forum as I play it so little in that format.

Cool to know the setups can be that quick and simple...

Dennis

Then you need KARMA, not an arranger.

Yes I tend to think so Nedim, its the other operational functions of the PA2 that I would miss most of all.

I am still, weighing up between the new S70 XS, and or the M3 73...

But how about an Arranger with Karma

Abacus, Open Labs are way WAY too expensive imho, and ONLY a max of a 61 note keyboard..

Those two points aside the OL with Karma would be teriffic.

That's interesting because if you selected a COMBI sound on the M3 and asked two people to play the same tune, simply because they will both play it slightly differently means KARMA will also play differently.

Sometimes I wonder if KORG are unaware of the potential they have because a Pa2X with KARMA would pretty much destroy the competition to a level that would make comparing anything else to it purely laughable.

The KARMA Software also has the ability to convert Midi Data into a GE, so it's technically possible to convert the styles of the Pa2X into GE's that would run on the M3. It's something I've always thought about doing on my OASYS but never got around to it because Karma suites me as it stands. I'm not into styles at all anymore.

James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 09-18-2009).]