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#272994 - 10/03/09 03:39 PM
Experimenting - blues w/hip hop beat
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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One of the things I love most about arrangers is the ability to use them like drum machines. Most have pretty refined patterns and they're easy to use, as implemented on an arranger. The one I used on this 'scratch' arrangement is from the PA1x Pro and is called 'Swing Hip Hop'. It's 'un-tweaked' : other than turning the tempo down to 69). The tune is an old Bill Withers 3-chorder called 'ain't no sunshine when she's gone'. The bass is a G7 patch but here's the kicker, the chords are from the same patch. The sax (which Diki hates ) is from the PA1x. The EP is from the G7. The guitar is from the Tyros 2 (as usual). The piano is from the G7. The BGV's are me mumbling through the VP-550 (I can't sing and it does a great job of disguising your voice). The organ is the Nord C1 (what else). There's too much 'verb on everything but that's deliberate, to set a mood (and drown out all the flubs). I always thought I could put together a simple tune from scratch in 30 minutes if I knew the tune. I was wrong. Although everything was done in one pass (I never do do-overs, too lazy. I try to hide a flub with the next dubbed instrument), it still took me 1hr and 15mins. No effects other than what was already on the patch and only a rough mix (turned down the organ, piano, and bgv's). Naturally, all of our homemade stuff sounds like puppy-poo compared to factory styles but I still like the 'live' feel over stuff that never contains a single mistake. I also like to make up the parts as I go along and since I don't play those particular instruments, it always sounds a little weird. But what the hay. Nobody else is posting. http://www.box.net/shared/ziia6cg456 chas PS: recorded volume is kinda low, so it sounds pretty lousy(er) through PC speakers. [This message has been edited by cgiles (edited 10-03-2009).]
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#273002 - 10/04/09 07:38 AM
Re: Experimenting - blues w/hip hop beat
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Chas, this is very nice...you smoothie, you.
Yes, the mix could be a bit better (I would have liked to hear the organ more), but the arrangement is really interesting.
The Sax, is played with a confident touch, and sounds great, even though after hearing and playing the SA Sax on the Yamaha, I find the every note attacks on anything else, less realistic...you'd sound just perfect using an SA voice coupled with that fine technique you have. The piano sounds cool.
Your playing has a "seasoned" sound about it...very relaxed and confident (yes, that word again...it fits, though) and I really like the beat...I'm a Bob James, George Benson, Lee Ritenour, Dave Grusin kind of guy, and your music has that same polished feel.
Nice work, buddy.
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#273003 - 10/04/09 07:53 AM
Re: Experimenting - blues w/hip hop beat
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 307
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
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Bill Withers' hit and hiphop beat have more in common than the names of the genres might suggest, matter of fact, one is standing squarely on the shoulders of the older R&B stuff anyway.
Most times, combining the HipHop beat with an older R&B tune falls squarely into the "SmoothJazz" category and this offering does that well, I think, could play on any Smoothjazz FM station and play well IMO.
HipHop beats over older R&B songs might just be the "bread and butter" of the Smoothjazz genre, actually.
Nice job.
--Mac
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