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#273659 - 05/04/10 04:18 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Artaher Offline
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Registered: 12/04/01
Posts: 143
Loc: Madrid, Spain
Old (and loved) styles from E-36, E-86, etc. work in E-50 I played in a store, but not so well (I suppose sounds bank is different) as they do in my EM-2000. Because of that, I have not changed my EM-2000.
Now, the new Prelude is a posibility to remplace my old EM-2000...
Are these old styles from E-86 going to play in the new Prelude better than E-50, as they work fine in Em-2000?
Is Prelude not so good arranger than E-50 -at same price-?
BTw... is PSR S710 a better choice at all(only 100 euros more expensive)
Thanks


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#273660 - 05/05/10 12:21 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Expecting legacy styles to play PERFECTLY in a modern arranger is simply unrealistic. But what Roland have done is make the job of tweaking the legacy styles to use the best sounds and drumkits as easy as it possibly can.

That's about all you can ask, nowadays. Unless you WANT an arranger that is SO similar to the legacy arranger that it hardly bears buying... Or stick with your legacy arranger in the first place.

I doubt in the store you explored the Makeup Tools options, but although tweaking NEEDS to be done, they make it a LOT easier than say tweaking it on an S710 (after you have converted the style in the first place). But the fact is, unless you stick to your old arranger, sooner or later, you will HAVE to tweak or convert your favorite styles. Me, I'd go with whatever brand made this the easiest...
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#273661 - 05/05/10 08:05 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Artaher Offline
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Registered: 12/04/01
Posts: 143
Loc: Madrid, Spain
Thanks, Diki
I know it is the time to remplace my old roland EM-2000.
My doubt is to choose between E-50 or Prelude, two Roland kbs at similar price. Prelude may have better sounds and other advantages, it is more modern. E-50 has a better screen and maybe an easier makeup tools for styles. But I don't know too well if there is a great difference in tweaking styles for to go to E-50.
Perhaps there is an internet site when these old styles have been converted for new Roland kbs and may be downloaded...
I see...

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#273662 - 05/05/10 10:59 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Artaher:
Thanks, Diki
I know it is the time to remplace my old roland EM-2000.
My doubt is to choose between E-50 or Prelude, two Roland kbs at similar price. Prelude may have better sounds and other advantages, it is more modern. E-50 has a better screen and maybe an easier makeup tools for styles. But I don't know too well if there is a great difference in tweaking styles for to go to E-50.
Perhaps there is an internet site when these old styles have been converted for new Roland kbs and may be downloaded...
I see...


Other than the MP3/wave playback feature on the Prelude......the E-50 or better yet E-60 are the better boards..
The E series has better features and ease of use compared to the Prelude and GW8..

That being said, I love the Prelude because of the MP3/Wave playback via play list..
I can't think of a better single keyboard to use with my band..Quick, light and efficient..great for our summer schedule of one nighters..
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#273663 - 05/06/10 02:03 PM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Big difference between Makeup Tools for Prelude and E series is that E series can Makeup Tool the drumkit, Prelude, not... So if something is a BIT wrong in the style with the kit, you have some major surgery to do (altering the actual note numbers in the Style editor, Division by Division) rather than a simple substitution.

But, OTOH, I think the Prelude (or at least, the GW-8L, because I haven't played a Prelude yet) has a better FX section for the styles, and quite a lot of great Tones. That's a tough call to make, I'm afraid. I think I would probably go with the E50, just for the touchscreen, easier to operate OS and the better Makeup Tools, but I would sure miss some of the Prelude's sounds...

I just don't understand why Roland always tend to completely reinvent the wheel every time they come out with a new arranger. Yamaha are FAR better at keeping the good features from an older arranger while they ADD newer, better features. Seems like Roland don't even TRY to find out what are the best features from the previous arranger, they just start from scratch every time...
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#273664 - 05/06/10 09:37 PM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
I have a question about the Prelude , can someone please answer , thanks:

When playing live can you use a style and set up the "upper part" to play a voice and then layer another voice on the fly , for say the the second verse;

IE; Lower - Style / Upper Piano + 2nd verse add Strings.

Can that be done without interruption ?

Many thanks for your help and replies. )

Gary 

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#273665 - 05/07/10 05:48 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by jedi:
I have a question about the Prelude , can someone please answer , thanks:

When playing live can you use a style and set up the "upper part" to play a voice and then layer another voice on the fly , for say the the second verse;

IE; Lower - Style / Upper Piano + 2nd verse add Strings.

Can that be done without interruption ?

Many thanks for your help and replies. )

Gary 


Talk to SZ member Fran Carango he knows the prelude inside out....good luck.

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#273666 - 05/07/10 07:14 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
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Hi , Fran , can you help me out with my question ?

Thanks ,

Gary 

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#273667 - 05/07/10 07:40 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by jedi:
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Hi , Fran , can you help me out with my question ?

Thanks ,

Gary 


YES!!!!!
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#273668 - 05/07/10 07:56 AM Re: First Impressions of the NEW Roland Prelude...
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi Fran ,

You have mail !

If that was the answer then many thanks

Take care ,

Gary 

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