I purchased one of the newest T3 styles, Big Band Train, curious to see if it would sound good in my PSR-S910. I was pretty confident that it would as other T3 styles have sounded great.

When I loaded the style, there was one voice that was missing and wasn't sounding. I made an educated guess that it was a jazz guitar voice for which the T3 has a Mega version and the S910 does not. I assigned the missing voice to Mega! SolidGuitar2, adjusted eq and volume, and the style, assigned the piano voice that defaulted to GM to the Live! GrandPiano - In the end, the style sounds great. A lot of the OTSs are missing, but that's no big deal.

I also found a CVP-409 style that isn't on the T2 or T3, called BaroqueConcerto. It sounds incredible in the S910. Each variation is like a different passage in Bach's Brandenberg Concertos. It really takes advantage of the Mega! Strings, Mega! Trumpet, Live! Harpsichord, and Sweet! Oboe.

The S910 looks identical to the S900, but inside, it's a different animal.

Beakybird

I later downloaded the T3 Big Band Foxtrot http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/instrument/Keyboard/Tyros3/category/Style+Files/product/1145012.

With this one, the missing jazz guitar really needs the jazz guitar. I wish I hadn't downloaded this one, because although the style is great, it took a lot of work changing the mega jazz guitar to the S910 Cool! Jazz guitar. You got to get rid of the mega voice artifacts.

I added appropriate OTS's - 3 were missing. Now I got a great style!

Beakybird

I searched to this on the site and couldn't find it. I looked in the style file section for CVP-409 - BaroqueConcerto - but nothing. Any further info you can provide to direct me to this style?

Thanks
Tim

The more I play my S910 the more this statement is SOOOOO true!!

I didn't know you could do that. I take it the artifacts you are refering to is the ping ping sound on all the megavoices when played on an older model and/or one that doesn't have that particular voice.

How does one go about doing that? Does Jorgen have software for that?

No Mega in Midi:
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/nomegainmidi/index.htm

This is also an amazing software called OTS editor:
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/otseditor/index.htm

Beakybird

Hi Larry (Beakybird) et al.

Both "No Mega in Midi" and "OTS Editor" utility programs were written and generously provided for free to the Yamaha user community by Jorgen Sorensen at his website: The Yamaha Unofficial Keyboard Resource Site . A great BIG thanks goes out to Jorgen.

In addition to these programs, there are many other extremely useful Yamaha arranger utility programs written by Jorgen available for d/l there as well. The Yamaha user community remain in debt to him and other talented pc programmers (Michael Bedesem, and others) who write & share their terrific utility software too. One reason I've remained such a loyal Yamaha arranger player for so long is not simply because I like the Yamaha product, but the tremendous USER COMMUNITY support given by FELLOW Yamaha arranger keyboard owners. This said, Jorgen Sorensen of Denmark, is currently on holiday here in the USA and taking in the sites of our Western United States including California and San Francisco, so I'm really looking forward to meeting him here in San Francisco (Sunday, Oct 25th) near the end of his trip. If anyone else's interested in meeting up with us (and other local arranger KBplayer friends) here in SF then as well, email me privately. It's a treat to meet fellow arranger keyboardist enthusiasts from around the world.

Scott

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Ditto, she's a mean machine. I'm liking this as much as my Pa2xpro.

Say hello to Jorgen for me. I think that those who use Jorgen and Michael Besdem's [sic] styles should make a contribution to Jorgen's website which features styles by both programmers.

Michael's program, Style Maker is invaluable as an interface to use with Yamaha MegaEnhancer. Jorgen has a similar program called Style Splitter and Splicer, but in all due respect, Michael's program works better in this department.

Jorgen's program, OTS Editor, is incredible! You can save favorite OTS settings as individual files and quickly add these OTS's to styles. This is a great way to add new voice OTS's to older styles.

Beakybird

Just a tip. I used to make "Jazz guitar" sounds from a clean sampled stratocaster when I was making MegaVoice Soundfonts. What I did was I rolled off a lot of the highs and high mids, and boosted some of the low mids. When I got it right it was really thick and creamy, maybe not like a fullbodied Jazz guitar, but more like an ES-335 type guitar, but with some reverb and a touch of chorus it sounded passable enough. I also removed a hint of attack, and made it linger a little bit after release. Maybe if you apply some of this to the MegaVoice clean guitar and save it as a user voice it will sound good? I assume you can do this kind of editing on the S910.

Cheers!

Doc-Z

No you cannot do this kind of editing on a PSR-S910 - not even on a Tyros 3. Voices that are part of a style cannot be edited beyond high and low eq, pan, volume, filter (so you can adjust brightness) and FX levels. You cannot edit the release or decay of a style voice.

Nevertheless, the Cool!JazzGuitar and the Cool!SoloJazzGuitar are great voices that sound very realistic, although I'm sure they are not quite at the level of the Tyros 3's Mega!JazzGuitar or whatever it's called.

Beakybird

oh sorry, my bad

Isn't it possible to use user voices for styles either?

My point was that if you could build your own MegaJazz guitar by tweaking one of the existing ones, you would get to keep those cool articulations and spare you the hassle of tweaking styles.

cheers,

Doc-Z

Doc-Z. Your suggestion was actually helpful, because it made me look at a couple of parameters, harmonic content and brightness that I can adjust. When I turn down the brightness, down the high eq and up the low eq, it sounds like a jazz guitar.

Beakybird

cool!


Doc-Z