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#27414 - 03/30/00 02:43 AM XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Korgasm Offline
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Registered: 12/16/99
Posts: 270
Loc: Australia
Hi everyone!

I've just ordered a new XV3080 to be put on lay by at my friendly neighbourhood music shop. However, there is also a pretty good deal going with the remaining JV2080's left to sell off. Basically I am about $700.00 (Australian) poorer by getting the XV over the JV (this tranlates to about $400.00 US).

I was very strongly advised to go with the XV over the JV by the sales person (whome I know doesn't talk crap because I've dealt with him for the past 10 years!!!!).

With the exception of the new Exp board slots, is the XV a big step up from the JV in terms of sound quality. I know that the JV can have up to 3 efx at once verses the XV's 1 efx but this doesn't really bother me. I've also heard and read alot about the JV2080 having problems with midi timing (due to the processor speed when alot of efx are used).

I have decided for the XV but I can still change my mind over the next week or so.

Could any XV owners who own or have owned JV modules please give me some thoughts and opinions? This would be much appreciated.

PS- I'm selling one of my 2 JV1080's to help pay for the above. Cheers.

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#27415 - 03/30/00 12:13 PM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
fvicente Offline
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Registered: 01/25/99
Posts: 149
Loc: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Hi Korgasm,

Stick with the XV IMHO. I own a JV-2080 and, yes the midi timing is terrible. I didn't notice it while playing it one sound at a time. However, in a sequence, the timing is bad. If I hadn't sold my old modules to buy it, I would have returned it and stuck with my old kit. However, they were long gone and now I'm stuck with it until I can buy something else. I have too many gigs right now that I cannot live without at least this sound source.

If you like the sound of these units, then the XV is probably better. When you get it home, check the timing on it. You may want to check it against the store's JV-2080 as well. Take some percussive sounds on different midi channels in performance mode. Trigger them at exactly the same time on a sequencer. The more sounds you use the greater the timing differences will be. Don't worry about some of the timings you'll hear. MIDI, by its nature, will have noticeable timing differences between notes going to a single MIDI port. However, hopefully, the XV's have a faster processor in them to trigger more reliably.

In regards to my setup (in case you're interested), I'm looking into a few options right now (some being more expensive) and, when I've decided, then I'll get rid of it. I am not interested in the XV's though. I like some of the sounds in the JV and it gives a ton to select from. However, the sounds aren't the greatest and I think that before buying something else now, I will wait until I really like the sounds of my next module/keyboard.

HTH,
Fernando

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#27416 - 03/30/00 05:10 PM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
Korgasm...
Hi...
You know my opinion. If you need "BEST FOR MONEY" then buy not just one but two JV2080 and some PCM cards. BUT ... if you need THE SOUND (for now) then enjoy your new 3080 (OK after some days).
Believe me. I'm not just another Roland fan. All XVs sound great. I've already told you that so many times...
XV is like having two 2080, one super JD and a new kind of synth. And i say two 2080s because not only XVs have 128 voices but also have true stereo (or double wave) tones. And remember than new SR card samples are the best around.

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#27417 - 03/31/00 02:23 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Korgasm Offline
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Registered: 12/16/99
Posts: 270
Loc: Australia
Well it looks like I'm sticking with the XV at present- but I haven't fully made up my mind! Any other comments/opinions out there?

After going into the Japanese site with the great info about the XV range last night, I think it may have convinced me to stick with the XV over getting the JV.

Bye the way, what are the 128 extra patches in the XV5080? And does the XV3080 have 6 outs (like on the JV1080/2080) or just 4 outs. If it only has 4, I think Roland really did us studio musicians a disservice!

PS- Has anyone heard the new piano and drums PCM boards for the XV series. The drum board particularly interests me at the moment and the piano board I would look at later- boy, this buying more stuff business never stops does it!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to both of the above responses so far. Korgasm.

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#27418 - 03/31/00 09:07 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Morten Jensen Offline
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Registered: 10/19/99
Posts: 29
Loc: birkeparken 172 5240 odense n...
The Xv 5080 have 128 extra because it have COSM effects.It have 6 effects per sound 3 Cosm,1 reverb,1 chorus,1 multi and 1 EQ per out.
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Morten Jnesen

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#27419 - 04/01/00 03:40 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Korgasm Offline
Member

Registered: 12/16/99
Posts: 270
Loc: Australia
How many effects at once can you have on the XV3080?

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#27420 - 04/01/00 05:00 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Morten Jensen Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 10/19/99
Posts: 29
Loc: birkeparken 172 5240 odense n...
The XV 3080 can have 3 effects per sound = 1 reverb,1 chorus and 1 multi effect.
XV 5080 is the only with cosm effects.
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Morten Jnesen

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#27421 - 04/01/00 10:16 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Arvon45 Offline
Member

Registered: 12/08/99
Posts: 272
Loc: USA
Korgasm-


Just get a jv1080 and run it through your TRITON's effects. Spend the extra money on some recording equipment or a ER-1 for drums.

The XV's dont sound all that different from the 1080's. Oh, and avoid the 2080's because they have the polyphony problem the midi problem, and the grunge decay issue at the end of sounds.

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#27422 - 04/02/00 05:26 AM Re: XV3080 OR JV2080???????
Korgasm Offline
Member

Registered: 12/16/99
Posts: 270
Loc: Australia
Hi Arvon45-

What's the polyphony problem in the 2080? It has the same polyphony as the 1080. I had 2 JV1080's but I sold one for a good 2nd hand price just the other day and that money is going towards the new synthe. It looks like I will go for the XV3080 rather than the 2080. I tried the 2080 the other day and did not hear any grunge noise from the unit I was playing. But I must admit that for someone who is vision impaired (myself!), the XV's display (whilst not able to display graphical items such as effects routings, envelopes etc) is easier to read than the JV2080's or XP5080's display.

I've decided that the JV2080 is too similar in spec to the 1080 and really the 2 biggest differences are the amount of expansion board slots and the 3 efx in the 2080. The latter does not concern me too much and whilst I haven't played the XV yet, it looks like that with the improved samples, AD/DA's etc alot of what is in the session expansion board (which I might still get) is already in that synthe as well as alot of extra orchestral and drum stuff.

However, I still have a couple of days to make my final decision so a few more opinions would be much appreciated- thanks.

PS- Arvon- after I'm totally happy with my MIDI set up??????? Then I will look full on in continuing to spend my hard earned dollars on more recording equipment- either Mac with Digi 001 or soon to be released Yamaha AW4416 recorder and a couple of nice mics and some more outboard (mic pre etc).
BOY WHEN IS ALL THIS GONNA STOP????? Cheers.

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