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#274583 - 10/28/09 02:05 PM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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The thing is, if you need that much accuracy...you hire a competent guitarist.
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#274584 - 10/28/09 02:14 PM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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And a great keyboard player!
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#274585 - 10/28/09 02:16 PM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Originally posted by Diki:
And a great keyboard player!


They are a lot harder to find.
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#274586 - 10/28/09 04:43 PM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Arranger keyboards are for the Walter Mitty that resides in many of us.

Generally playing most any instrument that is not keyboard based will seldom fool a player of the real instrument.

But, part of the playing experience of arranger(or synth) using samples of other instruments, is to paint with different colors, and not really try to fool anyone...generally it's done to give the "impression" of a guitar, or trumpet, or whatever.

Having said that, I heard Kenny Kirkland (Sting's former keyboardist...RIP) play a PSR-8000 with a distortion guitar patch, that was pretty incredible...sure turned a lot of heads, especially guitarists, who were awestruck.



I am not trying to FOOL my audience into thinking they are listening to a sax, trumpet, whatever, - Lord knows, all they have to do is LOOK to see that's not the case - but as you say, I am using the voices other than piano to 'color' the song I am playing ...

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#274587 - 10/28/09 05:39 PM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Well, distorted lead guitar is a pretty BOLD 'color' to use!

Anyone that grabs THAT for a lead sound is certainly not trying for subtlety or to not draw attention to the fact that they are not playing a piano sound
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#274588 - 10/29/09 08:42 AM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Originally posted by Diki:
Well, distorted lead guitar is a pretty [b]BOLD 'color' to use!

Anyone that grabs THAT for a lead sound is certainly not trying for subtlety or to not draw attention to the fact that they are not playing a piano sound [/B]


It's a color that's not really on my palette ...
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#274589 - 10/29/09 09:14 AM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
It's a color that's not really on my palette ...
t.



I use distortion guitar sound, but it's a very subtle tone, not like the crunchy, raunchy type used in Heavy Metal...more of a creamier warmer tone...SA HalfDrive on the PSR-S910/S900/Tyros2/3 is nice....you can adjust the filter and brightness to taste.

Used in Pop music, as well as Country, Blues, and even Latin, it works very well...almost voice-like and a nice change from using Sax or Trumpet.

Again, Tony, it's a personal choice...but, in any case, we definitely have a bigger box of crayons than we used to.

Ian
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#274590 - 10/29/09 09:19 AM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Maybe I'm just getting a bit crusty in my older age, but that was pitiful, IMO. Seems he only knows a few notes too. If I'd paid to see that, I'd demand my money back.

[This message has been edited by zuki (edited 10-29-2009).]
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#274591 - 10/29/09 11:25 AM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Ian, do you think Yamaha are working on letting styles use SA voices? I must confess, were such a good sound available to play, I'd want to hear it being used for style purposes, too...

It seems such an arbitrary restriction... if YOU can play it, why can't the machine? Same with custom voices and sampled voices, in fact.
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#274592 - 10/29/09 11:59 AM Re: Air guitar anyone...
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Diki, I imagine it's been thought of...I know I'd like to see it as well, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, clinician or otherwise, who has requested this feature.

The Mega Voices seem to lend themselves better for use in styles...Yamaha is always introducing new ones...I noticed a new Mega Voice Saxophone in the S900/S910, as well as the Tyros.

The control over the Mega and SA is different, I'm told.

Maybe the Tyros4 will have them in the styles.
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