I'm considering carrying the Roland line, and it looks like not too many new things just yet,

Are they going to make you carry the whole arranger line, or just the Prelude and GW-8? Or IS that the entire arranger line, now?

You going to get the Stage's and Juno's too? Can't wait for your review of the V-Piano, as well (best of luck selling THAT one! )...

Hi Frankie! Congrats for finally getting Roland to come on board at Audioworks. btw: you planning to come to Winter NAMM again this year? I really enjoyed hanging out with you there last year.

Scott

What confuses me is the fact that we were informed fairly definitively (weren't we?) that the G70 is discontinued in the US, and yet, there it sits on RolandUS's Arranger products page, with no mention whatsoever that it is no longer on the books...

The E80 is up there too. Thought they were blowing them out at a couple of grand a pop to get rid of them? So Frank... what IS the status of the arranger line..? The website is certainly no help

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Scott, I will be at NAMM this year, and I'm bringing my wife, you guys are ugly, just kidding, I will be there, let me know if you need the badge again?

Diki, Roland has discontinued the E80 and G70, as of the conversation with the Rep yesterday, but they do not leak any info unless they are able to ship within 90 days, so if they have another arranger in the works, no one will know until it's close for release.

He basically said I could have the whole line, I was generally only interested in the arranger, synths, v-accordions and drums.
But I'm going to start with arrangers and synths first



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I'll chime in here with what I know from my rep in Southern California. We currently know that there are no high end arrangers still available for sale from Roland USA. No G70s and no E80s are left. I've also been told no E50s, E60s are left.
So, there are only GW8s, Preludes and the home digital pianos (KR series).
When I ask if there will be new models coming I get a "we don't know" from the folks at Roland.


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818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com

correct me if i'm wrong...but

wouldn't it be to the manufacturers advantage to tell us if there's something coming soon??
if there is a new kick @ss arranger in the works, why not tell us?
i mean they don't have to go into details about specs or release dates...

that may make people wait to buy that "next" arranger
let's say i'm a Roland fanboy (which i'm not), who is thinking of getting an AUDYA, and Roland tells me there will a new flagship arranger out soon,
i may wanna wait to see then and buy their product....

not asking for release dates or specs, just want to know if i should wait...

make it known to your customers,
you have nothing to lose and everything to gain

That's exactly why they are not saying anything. It will effect the sale of what little they do have to sell right now.

It's standard company policy among many manufactures.

Frank or George. Would either of you be able to handle a VP-770 sale with a VP-550 trade-in? The VP-550 is pristine without so much as a speck of dust. Absolutely no visible signs of use. Original packing. What would be the bottom line for me? Hey, I'll even throw in a brand spanking new Zoom RT-223 for free.


Also, I would trade a Brand new in original packing, Fantom G7 with Sample memory upgrade (1gb) and all current software updates (not a scratch anywhere) for a Alexis DM-10 (I have one on order but could cancel) and Nord Electro 3.

OR, same Fantom G7 + VP-550 + RT-223 (and maybe a little cash) for VP-770 and Alexis DM-10 and Korg M50.

If any interest, let me know and I'll call or email you.

chas

Hello,
one of the last E80 produced in Italy shows the OS 2.03/2009 July 01/18:16:06. It seems to me that there are people working on an OS without any notice. An OS for a new Arranger???
Greetings
Rolman

Sorry Chas,

Corporate paperwork makes me 6-8 weeks out until any Roland product could start rolling in

Frank

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I don't sell the VP-550 or the 770. When I had a VP-550 I tried it, liked it, but thought it was way to expensive so I returned it. In this economic slowdon the past few years I've stayed away from the high end synth workstations because very few pros are buying them. The stores that have them are really sitting on them. I carry the Roland juno Di and the Roland Juno G but that's the extent of my in stock inventory of Roland Synths and in Korg I only stock their arrangers now as well. Times are tough!


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818-881-5566
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Not a problem, guys. You're right about the economy, George. Hope it picks up for everybody, soon.

T2, anyone? Probably less than 15 hrs playing time. Flawless. Make me an offer. Original everything. Upgraded memory. If anyone buys it, I'll probably get a M3 (or Nord Electro 3).

chas

Roland used to be terrible about trailing products way ahead of supply. Anyone else who was in the trade at the time remember the U-220 débâcle?

Chas
How about a trade with my Nord Electro2
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum29/HTML/002677.html

Bernie

Chas, send me an E-mail to joop081@cox.net

I am interested in the Tyros 2.

Sorry Bernie, only considering the Electro 3 or Korg M3.

chas

Roland should do what Ketron did... announce something mind-bogglingly ahead of its' competitors, specs to make you drool down your bib, then sit on it for at least a couple of years while you try to figure out whether you CAN build something that equals those specs. Keep announcing delay after delay, then release it in an unfinished beta, and slowly do OS after OS to deliver only SOME of the promised features

In the meantime, everybody will discuss it ad nauseam, speculate and prognosticate, and generally keep it at the forefront of every potential arranger buyer's consciousness, and generate HUGE buzz and a favorable comparison to everything that is ACTUALLY released and working in the trenches. People will delay new purchases for MONTHS, sometimes years, in the hope that the thing will live up to the hype, and keep Roland (who won't have released ANYTHING for at least three years) at the forefront of everyone's consciousness.

And then, when the product finally ships, with several of the most groundbreaking features unable to be fully realized, or working in a fashion that customers could have already bought an arranger with this degree of crippled functionality long ago and a price point that would choke an elephant, you stay mostly silent and work excruciatingly slowly to fix the plethora of bugs that at first won't even let you use the thing in a pro situation, and then work begrudgingly on a manual so that existing owners have finally got some documentation about how to do things that other arrangers make easier in the first place...

That shouldn't hurt Roland's reputation even a little bit, should it? I've even got a name for this vaporware boondoggle... The Roland V-Arranger

Two YEARS worth of hype without having to show anything... what company could resist that marketing opportunity? Free publicity and damage your competitors' sales for nothing more than a NAMM announcement! So... hold off on that T3, keep delaying that PA2Xpro purchase.

The Roland V-Arranger is coming (soon)

(Roland, you owe me! )

Diki, too funny

love your witty sarcasmic post !!!

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ebay

Frankie, great to hear you'll be there again. Unfortunately, due to recessionary constraints & a possible scheduling conflict, I'm probably not going to be able to make it this year, but thanks (again) for thinking of me with the badge offer. BTW: Since you're taking your wife, make sure you secure 'roach-free' accommodations this time. Enjoy.

Sarcasmic..?

I LOVE that word! Even if it doesn't exist, it OUGHT to!