How is ketron support lately? for a gigging musician this is of the utmost importance parts, service, especially turnaround time being without the KB?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-31-2009).]

When the Audya first came out, I don’t think any one would argue that it did not sound good.
I have to reiterate the very bad reviews that the G 70 had regarding the sounds when it first came out. People said it was absolutely terrible and unusable.
Now, with OS 4 (if it is free), they are doing what Yamaha did to move from the T2 to the T3.
“* Over 300 NEW voices/sounds and Programs
* Revoiced/Modified current ROM voices.”

That was what Yamaha did to move from the T2 to the T3 and you had to buy another keyboard for that to happen.


Remember you could have edited styles on the Audya when it first came out. Now they are adding the ability to create styles on the Audya.


Here is the irony of styles on the Audya.
OOTB the styles on the Audya sounds great. This is what arranger players say they want on an arranger. They do not want to have to create styles; they just want to take it out of the box and play and sound good. The Audya offered that.

It did not have style creation. But, those same people said that the Audya was incomplete because it did not have style creation (a feature they say they are incapable of using).

The style creation in OS 4 allows you to do it on the Audya it self. On OS 3 it allowed you to do it with a computer software.

An OS upgrade is not a work in progress.
We are all )including me) speculating as to what this upgrade would be.
For example, the 300 new sounds could be included in the ROM set.

Who knows, Ketron could be reworking the OS from the ground up so it could be like changing from windows 98 to windows XP.

However, the real issue is stability. Are there any serious bugs.
And of course we all know what are bugs right? A bug is not when the keyboard does not work as we think it should work. But a bug is when the keyboard repeatedly does not work the way it was intended to work.

Nedim,

Perhaps that's why Irishacts didn't get back on this one , no point in stating the obvious Doh!

He knows we shouldnt waste time and ink comparing the 2...not worth it.

As of now as it is and as it is able to do i dont think it will challenge any keyboard at all.
And me knowing some stuff, i dont think this keyboard is really able of PUSHING LIMITS with
upgrades, for gods sake, its not even 64MB of RAM but its around 48MB. How the hell would
that challenge a 256MB PA2X or a whooping 1GB Tyros 2/3? On the other hand, i am 100%
sure, knowing how Ketron's system works it will NEVER EVER have the ability to EDIT SOUNDS
as you do on a 800$ KORG PA50. Thats a fact we have to live with. Also, it will NEVER EVER
have the EFFECTS of a 800$ KORG PA50...wwayyyyyyy behind...lets be real.
Please dont call this an opinion, this is a fact that MOST of us know and it cant be debated.

[This message has been edited by Nedim (edited 11-01-2009).]

Nedim,

Lets get this right is Machetero talking complete tosh about the Audya, Nedim I can't imagine you saying what you have just said if you didn't know what you were talking about, from what I see now - Audya to PA2x you are right, but could Ketters turn this one around, on past performance SD1 and SD1+ I doubt it. The SD1 was a nightmare to get around DOS 1.02 was better, but folks bought the dam things!
Why do we get talked into buying the stuff.
When Ketters designed the SD1 the floppy disk was on it's death bed. They must have lots of old as-been engineers working for them.

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 11-01-2009).]

Yeah, because the macine played so lively and well "as is" without do any much more than
choose the style and sounds and push the start button.
I've said it before and have no problem to repeat it, Ketron manage to make an arranger
that sounds like it's the very same band performing during the night, the others I know
about don't do that without do a lot of "homework" before jump into any gig.
Switch from one style to another with Ketron, do the same with most others and you'll
notice what I mean.

Cheers
GJ

I know EXACTLY what i am talking about to the last detail but the funny thing is people think
i am ridiculous when i compare Audya to PA50, they think i really know nothing...lol.

But the devellopers have to satisfy both types of crowd, the ones that dont know nothing and
the ones that actuall do something with the OS on the machine...am i wrong?

You really can not compare Korg PA2x with any other arranger. Not the T3 not the G70. The extensive sound editing and effects on the Korg puts it in a class by it self.

Perhaps the Audya was to compete with the T3.
May be they were targeting the T3 market that wants something that sounds good OOTB, limited or no editing and cost a lot.
And that would have been fine except that Ketron has already developed a much more mature musical market. The people who like Ketron also like Korg. And they expect a lot of editing, programmability and space for user content. If you notice, the ones who are giving Ketron the hardest time about the Audya are the ones who have a PA2x and are concerned with none arranger features.

If you put the Audya in the hands of someone who is on the level of a T3 they would like the Audya for its features. They may not like the OS, but feature wise, they would be content.