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#275091 - 11/02/09 08:32 AM The Zoom R16 has landed
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#275092 - 11/02/09 09:59 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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#275093 - 11/02/09 11:23 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Wow, for less than $400, you can have a recording/production studio hundreds of times better than the systems on which 99 percent of the world's music was recorded.
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#275094 - 11/02/09 11:26 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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#275095 - 11/02/09 12:07 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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things just keep getting better and smaller ...

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#275096 - 11/02/09 03:58 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Zoom is going to sell a butt-load of these things. Very affordable and packed with features. With all the affordable studio gear out there today, musician's can save a lot of money by doing their own productions.
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#275097 - 11/02/09 04:46 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Zoom is going to sell a butt-load of these things. Very affordable and packed with features. With all the affordable studio gear out there today, musician's can save a lot of money by doing their own productions.


if you KNOW HOW........does ZOOM include a step by step instructional DVD on how to use this item........probably not. As if everyone is a recording engineer.

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#275098 - 11/03/09 08:08 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by Dnj:
if you KNOW HOW........does ZOOM include a step by step instructional DVD on how to use this item........probably not. As if everyone is a recording engineer.



Yes, Yes, and Yes again.

to the rescue:
http://fliiby.com/file/5740/bwf4bj680p.html

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#275099 - 11/03/09 08:54 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Donny..., I don't know where you've been man, but Zoom's recorders are sooooo easy to use. What ever happened to opening up a manual..?? Why do so many people expect a step by step DVD instructional manual these days.

You don't have to be anywhere near the level of a recording engineer Donny to use one of these either.
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#275100 - 11/03/09 09:08 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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These things are going fast, I didn't realize what a demand these were.

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#275101 - 11/03/09 10:24 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
You don't have to be anywhere near the level of a recording engineer Donny to use one of these either.


Excactly, and it shows when you listen to some of the demos posted here or on you tuibe no matter what gear you use. Seeing & listening is always better then reading.




[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-03-2009).]

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#275102 - 11/03/09 12:13 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by DonM:
Wow, for less than $400, you can have a recording/production studio hundreds of times better than the systems on which 99 percent of the world's music was recorded.
DonM


If your ONLY criteria are noise floor and wow and flutter specs, then yes, maybe you've got the best recording studio in the world. But sadly, there's a LOT more to it than that. Preamps (c'mon! how good do you think they are when there are eight for less than $400, and 99% of the world's music was recorded with a more than $400 pre on EACH CHANNEL? ), compressors, reverbs (know how much a Lexicon480L costs?), EQ's, gates, the list goes on.

Sure, you can make a OK album on this IF you are as good as those that made 99% of the world's music you have heard on the radio. But you'll make a better one if you have that older gear that cost thousands of times as much. Given a choice between this and a Neve or an SSL console, guess which one is 'hundreds of times better'?

But I doubt there's more than one or two that HAVE already made music that got on the charts here at SZ... Hit albums were made in the sixties on two track tape machines. Two track digital recorders have been in our hands for years. How many of us has made a hit album on one? Maybe it IS about more than the tape recorder...

Now, don't get me wrong... this is a great piece of gear, but hardly hundreds of times better than 99% of what the world's artists have used.

Just hundreds of times CHEAPER...
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#275103 - 11/03/09 12:19 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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I did a Christmas CD last year.

It didn't sell well over the summer, but, I have good feeling that sales will pick up soon.
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#275104 - 11/03/09 10:02 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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The Beatles would have killed for a chance to record on gear like this in their early years.
Their biggest hits were recorded on two and four tracks.
I was just trying to say that this is an amazing piece of gear for the price. In fact that's what I did say.
If you MUST make a controversy out of it, go ahead without me.
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#275105 - 11/04/09 02:13 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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I know how to settle this.

Everyone should buy one of these R16s from me, then record something and post it. The winner (of my decision) gets to buy me dinner.


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#275106 - 11/05/09 01:01 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Well, I can tell you that I am done with this constant childishness taking over many threads here including this one. Both involved parties will now take an extended break from the forum.


Now back to the original Zoom R16 thread ...

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#275107 - 11/05/09 01:52 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
I know how to settle this.

Everyone should buy one of these R16s from me, then record something and post it. The winner (of my decision) gets to buy me dinner.





Ha Ha...you are such a diplomat, Frank.
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#275108 - 11/05/09 07:02 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by Nigel:
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Well, I can tell you that I am done with this constant childishness taking over many threads here including this one. Both involved parties will now take an extended break from the forum.


Now back to the original Zoom R16 thread ...[/B]


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#275109 - 11/05/09 07:06 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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I have always liked Zoom products. I recorded many songs with the 802 and have the R16 on my xmas list.


Let's say I use 10 tracks and complete the song. Do I just play it back in real time into my computer to create a finalized song ?

Does the unit come with software ?
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#275110 - 11/05/09 04:19 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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#275111 - 11/05/09 04:20 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Sorry, sorry, the devil made me do it.

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#275112 - 11/05/09 05:13 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Is that Diki holding that sign?
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#275113 - 11/05/09 07:55 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Is that Diki holding that sign?


Looks like we won't know for a while
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#275114 - 11/05/09 08:55 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Okay Frank, if I win, I'll buy dinner - I pick the restaurant - it will be just outside of Philadelphia.
Related Don Mason's observation; the first band I was in (pre-Beatles) did a 2 sided 45 RPM and the master was done on a wire recorder, 5 instruments, everyone leaned into one mic, one take, one track, one amp ...
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