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#275101 - 11/03/09 10:24 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
You don't have to be anywhere near the level of a recording engineer Donny to use one of these either.


Excactly, and it shows when you listen to some of the demos posted here or on you tuibe no matter what gear you use. Seeing & listening is always better then reading.




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#275102 - 11/03/09 12:13 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by DonM:
Wow, for less than $400, you can have a recording/production studio hundreds of times better than the systems on which 99 percent of the world's music was recorded.
DonM


If your ONLY criteria are noise floor and wow and flutter specs, then yes, maybe you've got the best recording studio in the world. But sadly, there's a LOT more to it than that. Preamps (c'mon! how good do you think they are when there are eight for less than $400, and 99% of the world's music was recorded with a more than $400 pre on EACH CHANNEL? ), compressors, reverbs (know how much a Lexicon480L costs?), EQ's, gates, the list goes on.

Sure, you can make a OK album on this IF you are as good as those that made 99% of the world's music you have heard on the radio. But you'll make a better one if you have that older gear that cost thousands of times as much. Given a choice between this and a Neve or an SSL console, guess which one is 'hundreds of times better'?

But I doubt there's more than one or two that HAVE already made music that got on the charts here at SZ... Hit albums were made in the sixties on two track tape machines. Two track digital recorders have been in our hands for years. How many of us has made a hit album on one? Maybe it IS about more than the tape recorder...

Now, don't get me wrong... this is a great piece of gear, but hardly hundreds of times better than 99% of what the world's artists have used.

Just hundreds of times CHEAPER...
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#275103 - 11/03/09 12:19 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
I did a Christmas CD last year.

It didn't sell well over the summer, but, I have good feeling that sales will pick up soon.
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#275104 - 11/03/09 10:02 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
The Beatles would have killed for a chance to record on gear like this in their early years.
Their biggest hits were recorded on two and four tracks.
I was just trying to say that this is an amazing piece of gear for the price. In fact that's what I did say.
If you MUST make a controversy out of it, go ahead without me.
DonM
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#275105 - 11/04/09 02:13 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
I know how to settle this.

Everyone should buy one of these R16s from me, then record something and post it. The winner (of my decision) gets to buy me dinner.


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#275106 - 11/05/09 01:01 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Well, I can tell you that I am done with this constant childishness taking over many threads here including this one. Both involved parties will now take an extended break from the forum.


Now back to the original Zoom R16 thread ...

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#275107 - 11/05/09 01:52 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by frankieve:
I know how to settle this.

Everyone should buy one of these R16s from me, then record something and post it. The winner (of my decision) gets to buy me dinner.





Ha Ha...you are such a diplomat, Frank.
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#275108 - 11/05/09 07:02 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
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Originally posted by Nigel:
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Well, I can tell you that I am done with this constant childishness taking over many threads here including this one. Both involved parties will now take an extended break from the forum.


Now back to the original Zoom R16 thread ...[/B]


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#275109 - 11/05/09 07:06 AM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
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I have always liked Zoom products. I recorded many songs with the 802 and have the R16 on my xmas list.


Let's say I use 10 tracks and complete the song. Do I just play it back in real time into my computer to create a finalized song ?

Does the unit come with software ?
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#275110 - 11/05/09 04:19 PM Re: The Zoom R16 has landed
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