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#275873 - 11/16/09 02:08 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
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For latin styles.., I'd say currently the best unit is probably the Roland GW-8.., or I should say GW-8L (the L stands for Latin).
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#275874 - 11/16/09 04:29 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 07/17/01
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Loc: New York
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Originally posted by montunoman: Hi, I'm playing a few jobs next week doing all latin stuff. I'll be doing lots cha cha chas, boleros, rumbas, and a few cumbias, salsa and merengues. My Tyros 2 has very few of these syles. I've been to the Yamaha site, but they don't offer many Latin styles. Anybody know where I can get some?
Also just curious as to what arranger do you feel is best for Latin styles.
Thanks! There are good amount of latin styles converted for the yamaha but many of them are not very good. I’m a Yamaha owner, so looked for good latin styles. There are conversions from other keyboards but roland and korg never had good latin styles to begin with, so the conversions will only make it worse. The conversions from ketron are so-so, because it’s missing the second drum which ketron calls the groove. That can not be converted since its specific to ketron. The second drum makes a big difference in the style. The Roland gw-8L is a keyboard made for latin genre but I found that majority of the styles are not that good. There are a few but not good enough for me to want to spend $1000 for it. If you’re looking for latin, ketron is your keyboard. Before everyone jumps up and yells Auyda, there are other ketron models that have fantastic latin styles. A mid-range keyboard is the Sd5 or older used models like the SD1 or X1. They are a little older but still out shines many of the other brands in latin. As this is just my opinion, but I know my latin very well. Glad to help. You may want to YouTube ketron or go to ketron.it for some demos.
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#275875 - 11/16/09 04:51 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Hey guys. He already owns a T2. He's not looking for a keyboard--he's looking for styles. Eddie provided you with an excellent source, and many of those files are conversions that have been done extremely well. Additionally, I'll try to dig up a pile and email them to you before the Monday Night Football game comes on. Email me at travlin_easy@copper.net and I'll send them posthaste. Good Luck, Gary [This message has been edited by travlin'easy (edited 11-16-2009).]
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#275876 - 11/16/09 05:12 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 07/17/01
Posts: 870
Loc: New York
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Originally posted by travlin'easy: Hey guys. He already owns a T2. He's not looking for a keyboard--he's looking for styles. Eddie provided you with an excellent source, and many of those files are conversions that have been done extremely well.
Additionally, I'll try to dig up a pile and email them to you before the Monday Night Football game comes on. Email me at travlin_easy@copper.net and I'll send them posthaste.
Good Luck,
Gary
[This message has been edited by travlin'easy (edited 11-16-2009).]I know, my bad, just trying to help, I'm in the same boat that he is in, I love my S900 to death but it hard to find latin styles that are good, especially if your playing for hispanic crowd. Also almost forgot, the S550B, is a yamaha that just came out recently, when I demoed it had some good cumbias and other latin styles that the T3 or the T2 does not have. But I haven't found a site where the internal styles can be downloaded. [This message has been edited by mc (edited 11-16-2009).]
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#275879 - 11/16/09 08:13 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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FAEbGBD, You're right. I just missed that last sentence when I read the original post. montunoman, You have mail. Cheers, Gary
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#275885 - 11/18/09 12:20 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Gentlemen, It's all about priorities. A new car can run 30,000 dollars, a good bass boat 20,000. Gary's sailboat, no telling. I used to routinely pay 10,000 for an organ, each time thinking it was the last I'd ever need. The Audya is something no one else much has. It is an arranger, a midi file player, an MP3 player, a WAV player, a recorder. It has everything needed to replace laptop, including music players and text display, great vocal processing and harmonizer. It has as many as eight individual outs for recording. It has various effects processors, compressors, and a sound that you will not hear in every beer joint on the street. It has two mic inputs and e.q. for both, so you don't need a mixer for a solo or duo. It has a really good new operating system, and it's built like a tank. I think it's a bargain when you consider all you get. Of course similar points can be made for most of the arrangers on the market now. They are all bargains when you compare the to what we used to have to use. For goodness sake, I think I paid something like $1500. for a PSR 6100, that sounded like doo-doo and had virtually no storage other than strange sounds encoded on a cassette tape. And that was when a dollar was worth something. If you have to mortgage your house to buy one, then sure, it's a no-brainer. But it's easy to see how many of us waste so much money on other things. I know a guy who spends more on booze and cigarettes in six months than it would take to buy an Audya, all the time griping about being broke. It's a matter of priorities. I'm sure there are better choices for many of us, but if price is the only consideration, I guess you just buy a PSR and sound like everybody else. PLEASE, I've owned more PSRs than probably anybody here, so don't take it personally, but unless you make your own styles, or at least do a lot of editing, they all sound alike and have for the past 8-10 years. You can walk in the door of a place and if there is someone playing one, you will not only recognize the sound, but more than likely the style. I suppose that's a price you pay for playing the most successful arranger of all time. They are very good, very reliable, very practical and easily attainable. Rant over. DonM
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#275886 - 11/18/09 12:36 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Back in the day, it wasn't uncommon to have $30-40,000 worth of keyboards, amps, mixers, stands, cables and pedals sitting on the stage.
Don is right about personalization...that's why I work so hard at editing styles and trying fresh arrangements of tunes...we all want to sound different than the next Joe using an arranger.
$5-6000 isn't a lot for a top end keyboard...try buying a new Hammond B-3, or a V-Piano...and that's only two sounds...organ and piano.
I hope they fix the bothersome bits with the Audya...be sure that Yamaha, Roland and Korg are watching how it's received, and how players are responding...imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, but it is also the way business runs as well.
We'll all benefit eventually.
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#275887 - 11/18/09 03:36 PM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Yep, it's about priorities--that's for sure. And, that's why I'll be taking my time getting to the Shreveport Jam. On the way south I have about 8 sailboats to look at, which will likely drive my wife nuts. I've been searching for a Morgan 33 and 41 Out Island for two years. If you know of one for sale in your neighborhood, and it's somewhere between Baltimore and Key West, let me know. As for keyboards, well, that's subjective. Cheers, Gary
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#275893 - 11/20/09 07:53 AM
Re: Latin Styles
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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The biggest problem with style files is there are so many bad ones out there. I would suggest going to www.psrtutorial.com and click on the styles tab. You'll find thousands upon thousands there, many of which can be categorized from fair to good. A significant number, however, rage from good to excellent, and a small percentage could be placed in the outstanding category. Of course there's another option. You have an outstanding keyboard, one that has a wonderful program called Style Creator, onboard. If you happen to find a style file that is close to what you are looking for, you can run it through the program, change any instrument, remove or add instruments, and a huge number of other features, then save this information to the style. In addition to the style files, you'll also find detailed instructions for using Style Creator at the same web site. Good Luck, Gary
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