http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fugtN0SU_Yo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X1aFLB8DE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ07XqtGij4&feature=related

Really enjoyed that.
Totally effortless excellence in playing.

Just have one complaint.... the KORG logo on this T-Shirt is not the official Font. Ohhh the little things us KORG users have to worry about lol....!!!!

Regards
James

PS: Love the part when he presses the fill-in with his nose. Effortless excellence.

Yes and only for 200 Euro you can buy the USB Muzikant and stick it in your PA 800 or PA2x and you have 2 keyboards. Yes Korg is a winner.

Excellent and it don't lock uppppppppppp!

Mary

Brillant and this only a PA500 I think this is better that Audya look at the price difference Korg �900 Audya �4200.00

Fran

can you get this in the uk

Nice!

I really like this way to demo, humorisic and fun, as well as
good playing.
If I go for a PA2X Pro, I got to have that USB stick as well....

Cheers
GJ

Jonny come on how do you rate that cheap Korg to the Audya, no contest it's far better than Audya. And what a demoist, German and all that hey!

That was super Frans...the guy is an excellent demonstrator, and that PA-500 is astonishing.

Definitely one of the better "bang for the buck" keyboards out there.

Ian

Ian,

I totally agree with you, one of the best demos I have seen for a long time and when he picks the KB up and plays it like an accordion that�s amazing, that USB stick every Korg owner should have one, the 500 sounds better than the Audya or my ears have gone walkabout! Beat that Ketron with you OS4 and �4200.00.

Jonny what do you mean IF you go for the PA2X - you would be mad to buy anything else

then my ears have gone walkabout. I guess you have to take into account the sound systems the instrument is played through but although the demonstrator was terrific and Ketron would do well to consider who they use to demonstrate the Audya, this demo did not sound better than the Audya demos i have heard. I am talking about actual sounds. Something isnt quite right because the pianos sounded toyish and the guitars sounded like GM guitars. I own the PA1X and i know for a fact my PAx sounds better that this without any doubt in my mind. I am playing the old PA1X demos right now on the same computer speakers and the difference is night and day

To be honest, I've been tempted to go for PA2X Pro for some time, but my experience with the SD1
made me believe in that Audya would be the right thing for me.
The only matters that made me hold back to buy (as I said so many times now), are the pricelevel
they put Audya into in this country compared to rest of the world.

So, now I'm just lurking at the fence to see what happening. Does Audya grow up from the stage of
"children's disease", does Korg or maybe Roland release a high end followup in the near future,
or (as some people whisper about), will Casio give us a big surprice by put a new high end model
who really sets a new arranger keyboard standard into the market?

Exciting times, in the meantime I'll try keep the dust off of the G-70. Just pushing the power on
button, select some styles and sounds and play it as it is. No deep diving into things that need
lots of brain activity, just play, relax and enjoy the moments.

Cheers
GJ

Wow what an enthusiasm.
Yes Tony you can buy the usb stick online for example here http://www.musik-produktiv.de/korg-musikant-usb-stick.aspx

Don't forget you listen to a youtube video.
And the PA500 is 3500 Euro cheaper here in the Netherlands then the Audya.


[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 11-20-2009).]

Glad you spotted that about the demonstrator as well or I would be accused of being totally bias. But when I say I think that demo of the 500 was better the my Audya, I am listening to the demo through PC speakers and I am play the Audya through a brand new set of SR 500, so come on is that a fair test for the KORG, if the 500 sounded better through PC speakers than my Audya through a set of SR then I am lost for words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ07XqtGij4
KORG TV / PA500 Musikant mit J�rgen Sartorius / Teil 3

Now demos like this is what sells keyboards!

I liked those beats on the following songs:

Jailhouse Rock
Satisfaction
The Walk of Life
Bad Moon Rising

Are these �stock� rhythms and are they the same in the PA2xPRO?

Also�..what is that box or book he has in his hands halfway through the video?

What does one do with the USB stick?

I have a feeling Korg is going to be the new kid on the block now, making up for all the time they lagged behind Roland in the early arranger days.

Lucky

I think what he actually demoes is the Korg Musikant USB Stick by use of the PA500.
As far as I understand, it's also compatible to the other Korh PA's.


- Special Entertainer PCM-Multisamples
- New Entertainer Drum- und Percussionsamples
- New Entertainer Drumkits
- 320 Entertainerstyles
- 128 new Usersounds
- 82 new Pads und Padsequenzes
- More than 600 Songbook titles (My german is bad, so maybe it is Songbook setups)

Great consept, and not that heavy priced either if you look at what you get for te money.

Cheers
GJ

Someone please explain the USB stick + the Pa500. The 500 uses SD for external memory - and that only for styles and songs, not voices. What am I missing here?

Tim

My guess is that it has something to do with copy protection. The only need for the memory stick is to likely supply the data in a format that makes it difficult to copy.

Regards
James

The demo is the PA500 Muzikant. This is the German version of the PA500. This version is also available on USB stick so you can use it on a PA800 and PA2X Pro. The PA500 international version don't have USB so you can't use it on the international PA500.
See http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_info.html?en for all the special versions of the Korg PA500.

So there is no North America/USA/Canada specific model...not enough Korg arrangers sold in this part of the world to warrant a special model?

The PA500 is the North America/USA/Canada/Europe model

So, you can't use the stick on it then?

That's a bit of an oversight, don't you think?

Maybe there is adapters to find, or as easy as copy from USB stick into SD card?
GJ

Although, GJ, perhaps the idea of the stick was to protect the data from being shared.

If you can get it off the stick and into your PC (to put on your SD card), then it seems that there's no more control over where the data will go.

Maybe they'll offer a specific SD card for North American users?

Ian

Not really. The PA500 don't have a sample fuction and the Musikant Stick have samples you must load in the PA800 and/or PA2X Pro to make it compatible with the musikant. But if you buy the PA500 Musikant and the normal PA500 together its still cheaper then a PA800 .

I read all the messages here and I'm MORE confused.

Are you saying that those styles (above) are on a USB stick that gets inserted into the American model PA2xPRO.

Also, how is the German PA2xPRO different from the American version?

Lucky

I don't think there's a German PA2xPRO, Lucky.

Pa500 Musikant

Exclusively for Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

A keyboard built by entertainers for entertainers

The Pa500 Musikant is the ideal instrument for all the musicians of the German-speaking world, which preferably play entertainment, dance and folk music and place great emphasis on local sounds and rhythms! Developed by entertainers for entertainers, it offers everything you need for successful music-making. No matter whether you play for the most demanding audience, or simply at home for fun � the Musikant is the most reliable and best equipped key board of its class!

Flexible party guarantor

As a musician for different situations during ceremonies, celebrations or events, you have to offer always the right music. For this reason, you need a reliable keyboard with captivating sounds, that gives you the opportunity of covering different musical needs, while saving from time-intensive programming work, or having to buy additional expensive software. We do justice now to this heart desire! The Pa500 Musikant is the first and only keyboard equipped in one blow with all that music, which you need in this country for an ideal appearance. Whether you are in a wedding party, at a fair, at a birthday, at a meeting, in a club or in the middle of a luxury cruise, the Musikant offers you the full range of styles and national typical sounds.

He speaks German

For the first time in the history of entertainment keyboards, the style, sound and performance banks are labeled in German. For example, do you need a schlager? Simply press the �Schlager� style button, and you get the extensive selection of all schlager styles contained in the Pa500 Musikant. If you look for a particular akkordeon, select the �Akkordeon� sound button. But that�s not all: all the sounds, styles, songbook entries, performances, STS and pads are in German.

In addition there is a German-speaking, context-sensitive help system that makes the Pa500 Musikant very simple and clear to operate even for beginners. Curing even the smallest details was a basic concept while developing a keyboard dedicated to German-speaking musicians, something you will never want to miss again.

Oh...it's not blue but black.

Some demos to be found on the German site:
http://www.korg.de/nc/produkte/keyboards...duktinfo-2.html

Taike

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Bo pen nyang.

Thanks Taike,

I understand now what it is. I also called Korg today to inquire about it...they had no info on it.

So this keyboard looks exactly the same as the American version except for the color?

My main interest is the dance styles. They're different from the ones we get here? And I assume that's where Jailhouse Rock, etc came from....the basic styles in that Musikante?

The reason I'm so interested is that I have been both American and European trained. The PA2xPRO whets my appetite but much of it is too contemporary for me to spend that much money. I like what this Musikante is all about.

Lucky

I just read through all these messages again. I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not familiar with the Korg machines. But I went here:
http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_info.html?en

What I get this time is that these 500's are all physically exactly the same....with the same sound engine?

The Musikant has different dance styles than the American version?

This USB Musikant stick...
http://www.musik-produktiv.de/korg-musikant-usb-stick.aspx

...has all these different sounds/styles contained in it and plugs into the USB port on the PA2xPRO (but not on the 500)?

I mentioned I called Korg but they know nothing about it.....and, I might add, couldn't give two hoots anyway.

Lucky

Spend some time with it and you'll find it is everything, contemporary and beyond

You can also go for the PA800 and the Musikant Stick. Still cheaper then the PA2X Pro plus you have aftertouch and DNC and the sample function which the PA500's don't have.
Now to answer your questions. The Local PA500's have different styles and sounds then the International PA500. The sounds and styles are based on the country. There are 4 Local versions the Pa500 Oriental, the Pa500 Musikant, the Pa500 Turkiye and the Pa500 China.

Yes the Musikant stick contains everything the keyboard version have. So infact you will have a totally different keyboard extra if you use it with a PA2X OR pa800.

FransN,

So, am I to understand the Musikant Stick will not work with the PA-500 International model, and only with the region specific instruments (in regards to PA-500)?

Also, when using a region specific PA-500, the user does not get the full experience with the Musikant Stick, the way a PA-800 or PA2XPro user would...because of the extra sounds etc....am I correct?

Ian the Curious

Correct Ian. The PA500 has no sample function so it is impossible to load the samples from the Musikant. I quess you can use the styles if someone copy them but you have to tweak them to make them work in the PA500. So if you like the Musikant more then the International PA500 you better buy a Musikant or what I do is buying a PA800 with the Musikant Stick and have both worlds.

Yep, you're making the best decision...the PA-800 (or PA2XPro) with the stick is a sweet deal, for sure.

Ian

what is the different between the musikant usb and the xms 64 usb ?

But the German PA500, if that's your choice, may not be availabe outside of Europe.

Regards

Taike

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Bo pen nyang.

Frans....thanks for your further explanation....and your additional answers to everyone here. This is a very interesting thread. I hope it can keep going for a while.

I played in Germany and loved the music. Something like what you're describing here is opening up a new Korg horizon for me.

Lucky

Thanks Lucky This way a Korg never get bored.

Taike you can look for an online store who can sent it to your country. Or ask your music store to import one for you.

Frans,

Is this correct?

The Musikant comes with dance styles that are different from the American version? Do you know if they are ALL different, or just some of them?

The USB stick is NOT a copy of what's already inside the Musikant. It has all new and different dance styles (and sounds?)?

The Jailhouse Rock (and the other demos) I heard....those dance styles are IN the keyboard or on the USB stick?

Is there a listing of dance styles both in the Musikant AND on the USB stick (even if it's in German)?

You said on another thread to order one from Germany through your local music store. Is that a real possibility? Do they have dual voltage?

I really like that keyboard in black. The blue they have here is my latest favorite color...enough to stop me from purchasing one in blue!

Looking forward to your reply.

Lucky

Hi Lucky
Here some answers

The Musikant comes with dance styles that are different from the American version? Do you know if they are ALL different, or just some of them?

Answer: Yes as far as I know they are all different.

The USB stick is NOT a copy of what's already inside the Musikant. It has all new and different dance styles (and sounds?)?

Answer: The USB stick contains exactly the same as the keyboard version.

The Jailhouse Rock (and the other demos) I heard....those dance styles are IN the keyboard or on the USB stick?

Answer:
On both the keyboard and the USB stick.

Is there a listing of dance styles both in the Musikant AND on the USB stick (even if it's in German)?


Answer: Yes in the end of the manual http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/pdf/pa500Local/Pa500-MK-119UM-GER.pdf

You said on another thread to order one from Germany through your local music store. Is that a real possibility? Do they have dual voltage?

Answer:
There you got me I didn't think about the voltage. This question you have to ask your local store.

I really like that keyboard in black. The blue they have here is my latest favorite color...enough to stop me from purchasing one in blue!

Looking forward to your reply.

Lucky

Frans,

Thanks again, you've been real helpful.

That "manual" download is too big for me. But I found the style listing here:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46971&sid=bccc2a1eb51b0f68d96b91c007fe8d98

and the demo's here:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=musikant+korg&search_type=&aq=f

I did a lot of Internet research and with what you wrote and what I found on the Net, I'm more familiar with it all now.

Correct this if it's wrong:

The USB stick has the same 320 dance styles on it that are in the Musikant. The American PA-800 and PA2xPRO have USB ports and will read the USB (Musikant) stick. The PA-500 can NOT read the USB stick.

I mentioned that I'm not familiar at all with Korg keyboards. I telephoned KorgUSA here in America, but they were no help at all. The usual for them.

All that's left now is for me to somehow hear some of those styles. The (American) PA2xPRO dance styles are too sterile for my tastes, but I like what I heard from that Musikant so far.

Lucky

The USB stick has the same 320 dance styles on it that are in the Musikant. The American PA-800 and PA2xPRO have USB ports and will read the USB (Musikant) stick. The PA-500 can NOT read the USB stick.

Answer: Yes Lucky thats correct. The best deal is a PA800 with the USB musikant stick.

Here in the Netherlands Korg is more helpful. It's a shame that they can't help you. No wonder Yamaha is more popular in the USA.

Frans,

I've been viewing Internet sites about the Musikant. I'm confused again. Telephoning KorgUSA is like talking to a revolving door! Can you view these questions for me again?

Is there a German PA-500....AND....the Musikant? Or the Musikant IS the German PA-500?

Now...the confusion comes from the dance styles.

Do the following all have the same 320 dance styles in them?:

Musikant
PA-500 (German version IF there is one)
PA-800 (German version)
PA2xPRO
and...the American versions of the three I just listed

I went to this site and was VERY impressed with the sounds and dance patterns:
http://www.korg.de/nc/produkte/keyboards...duktinfo-2.html

Where actually do those styles he used to play Jailhouse Rock, Satisfaction, Walk of Life, etc come from? Which keyboard or just the USB stick?

Is J�rgen Sartorius a top player in Germany or is he just a good demonstrator?

Thanks again for your help here.

Lucky

Lucky,

The Musikant IS the German PA500. Easy to distinguish by its black color which looks better than the blue version.

Here's the homepage of Jurgen:
http://www.juergensartorius.de/

I'm sure that, if you were to contact him, he'd answer all of your questions.

Regards

Taike

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Bo pen nyang.

Lucky there is no German PA800. If you buy a PA800 you also need to buy the USB Musikant stick to get the styles available on the PA500 Musikant keyboard version.

I have some good news. The PA500 Musikant is totally compatible with the international PA500. That means if you buy the Musikant you get about 200 sounds more then the international PA500 for the same price. And if someone is so nice to sent you the styles of the international PA500
then you both the styles of the Musikant and the international PA500. The only disadvantage is that the keyboard is in german including the manual and the help funtion.

The styles J�rgen Sartorius played are on both the stick and the PA500 Musikant keyboard. Here are some more demos of the PA500 Musikant http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_demo.html?en

Thanks Frans, it doesn't get much clearer than that.

I did some "surfing" last night and found those demo's on the German site. They really whet my appetite for playing. I particularly like the Big Bands and the Cha-Cha.

The ones I've heard here are too sterile, too clean...not a lot of "feel" to them. But then again with that many styles on the machine, I'm sure I haven't heard them all.

The arranger market here is so sad. If you want a high end keyboard, you have to go with the "luck of the draw!" Buy one and hope it's what you're looking for, 'cause at $4,000, and with our current economic situation, you're not going to be able to unload it that easy!

I'm going to look further into what styles are available and "where?" But I'll wait until I see what's unveiled at the winter NAMM before making a decision.

Lucky