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#277535 - 12/14/09 09:45 AM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ: Count down is at 4 ...
Unfortunately, I can't say much more ... (got in trouble for releasing the information I previously released already ...) AJ, What kind of counting method are you using, binary, it was 5 a week ago, it's 4 now that's giberish, Don please help us out it's a long time since I went to school, You know AJ better than me is he on medication. Got it it's music time. a 5/4 beat. This is just a ploy to scupper my thread and my bet with James.I have fell into the trap and replied to this thread, I am doomed. Only joking about the medication steady on it's only an Auyda I am not losing friends over £4200.00. I said Ketron was and enigma I was right! Cheers all [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 12-14-2009).]
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#277540 - 12/14/09 09:47 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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It has outstanding styles and sounds, particularly the pianos. Sounds like a live band. The vocal processor and vocal harmonizer are excellent. There are multiple fills AND breaks for each style. I like the simple endings that all the new styles have. I wish they had re-worked more of the SD styles to match. Sometimes I use an SD styles and hit ending number one expecting a quick, simple one bar ending, and instead hear a more advanced one. I like the new Operating system. It retains some of the better features of the old system while gaining the ability to function seamlessly with the internal hard drive and external USB drives. I'm hoping for some more modern instrument sounds that embellish the excellent "bread and butter" sounds that exist on it now. It would be great if Ketron would develop one-touch setups suitable for specific genres, if not specific songs. You can make them yourself, but I get really inspired by trying setups out of the Roland Music Finder and OTS systems. I do hope they finish the chord recognition of advanced chords using the audio guitars, but to tell the truth in real-time performances I don't notice the trade-off between wav and midi guitar parts. If you isolate the style part, then you plainly hear it on augmented and diminished chords. I would really like to have a chord mode that allows you to play a 3-note chord with the left hand, below the split, then be able to play individual notes without changing the chord until 3 notes are again hit simultaneously. Roland calls this Pianist mode. It was also on Technics I believe. Ketron does have a mode where you can do this using full keyboard and also when incorporating the sustain pedal to "hold" chords, but that's not what I mean. It's certainly not a deal-breaker, but I would like it. The Audya as it is is an excellent arranger. I feel it will be unrivaled when the software finally approaches completion. DonM
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#277543 - 12/15/09 08:38 AM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ: Count down is at 4 ...
Unfortunately, I can't say much more ... (got in trouble for releasing the information I previously released already ...) Hell AJ, What's going on, you only said 5, what the hell is five among friends, we know you meant 5 months, are you saying that the it's 5 years, Doh, they can't bollock you for that, you are given them plenty of time to get the Audya right, I smell blood AJ. Cheers
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#277545 - 12/20/09 06:04 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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#277546 - 12/20/09 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ: Count down now at 3 ... AJ, I give in, you got me, you win, you beat me ,I'm done for, I'm wacked, I'm down and out, what more can I say, I thought the numbers game was over, thought you had been captured by aliens! A Merry Christmas to Ketron programmers Cheers AJ
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#277550 - 01/01/10 10:35 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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#277553 - 01/03/10 02:23 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Perhaps the Mayan calendar could be used for Ketron updates? 2012 is supposed to be a very 'big' year, isn't it? Personally, I STILL don't believe they should be using whole integers for these updates. This isn't OS 4 you are waiting for, it is OS 1.4... or to be more accurate OS 0.4beta. Until a product delivers what was initially promised in its' product announcement, how can it claim an OS 2 and upwards designation? Roland didn't add a whole extra digit for bugfix upgrades, simply 1.2, 1.3, etc.. Then, when they added a whole bunch of things not even MENTIONED in the initial release they allowed the OS to go up a whole integer. My G70 is on OS 3. But if you used Ketron's system, it would be OS9 or more! But OS3 says a LOT more about what they actually have done to IMPROVE the overall OS, not fix gaffs and bugs. This might seem a bit like splitting hairs, but the whole number designation is widely used around the computer industry to designate a brand new OS that adds features entirely new to the software. Windows would be at around OS 150 by now if they used Ketron's system. But even THEY are content with 7 Ketron needs to not crow about these bugfixes and basic feature unlocks as if they WERE major additions...
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#277554 - 01/03/10 09:29 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Originally posted by Diki: Perhaps the Mayan calendar could be used for Ketron updates?
2012 is supposed to be a very 'big' year, isn't it?
Personally, I STILL don't believe they should be using whole integers for these updates. This isn't OS 4 you are waiting for, it is OS 1.4... or to be more accurate OS 0.4beta. Until a product delivers what was initially promised in its' product announcement, how can it claim an OS 2 and upwards designation? Roland didn't add a whole extra digit for bugfix upgrades, simply 1.2, 1.3, etc.. Then, when they added a whole bunch of things not even MENTIONED in the initial release they allowed the OS to go up a whole integer.
My G70 is on OS 3. But if you used Ketron's system, it would be OS9 or more! But OS3 says a LOT more about what they actually have done to IMPROVE the overall OS, not fix gaffs and bugs.
This might seem a bit like splitting hairs, but the whole number designation is widely used around the computer industry to designate a brand new OS that adds features entirely new to the software. Windows would be at around OS 150 by now if they used Ketron's system. But even THEY are content with 7
Ketron needs to not crow about these bugfixes and basic feature unlocks as if they WERE major additions...Diki, I get your drift about numbers but from what I understand and don't take my word for it, OS4 is a different animal, I’ve been told it will blow my socks off, this is ground breaking, mind boggling, World beating software, that’s why I am hanging on and not getting rid, I been sucked in, I’m like a rabbit caught in the headlights, drifting in the ether, Ketron have reduce me to a sniveling nobody, my doctor says I need counseling. Don’t believe a word I say, I have lost the plot, I don’t believe a word Ketron say, just wait and see, and personally Diki Ketron can do what they want with numbers OS4.0 Build 1560, just get the god dam thing right. Mary Shelly
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#277568 - 01/08/10 10:48 AM
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#277569 - 01/08/10 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by leezone: AJ,
countdown at 1 yet? Leezone, AJ has become a double agent, he's working for both side now, there's a conflict of interest and he is not to be believed. I would trust James more now on this one. This has got to be some Mother of an Upgrade, this will wipe the slate clean and people will see Ketron in a different light from now on in, OS4 will not only blow your socks off but your legs too, well maybe one. OS4 will have Yamaha,Korg, and Roland out in the cold. Don't I just talk a lot of Tosh, I live eat and sleep Ketron Audya now, the 5 a day Prozac is helping calm me down, I've taken to reading Audya manual in bed now, ready for the next chapter OS4, even if OS4 is Sh*t hot, bet the manual will be crap, or not one at all! Something is happening, I need to go to the toilet. Regards
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#277575 - 01/09/10 12:08 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Originally posted by Irishacts: Seems to have crashed while loading. I've been looking at the image for the last few minutes and the percentage bar hasn't moved.
Regards James James, You just can't resist it can you, I'm the one would should be smarting, I have the bloody Audya. James have you noticed OS4.A no less, that means there may be a B,C,D, what bloody confidence Ketron! You can't blame them for trying, they keep plugging away, but at 4 months between OS upgrade I won't be around to see it finished. Tony [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 01-09-2010).]
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#277577 - 01/09/10 01:49 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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hi, This is a screen shot of my Audya! To show that the version 4 is real. Not to forget that the fabulous Ketron Audya continues to evolve. I'm not going back to do démos The best is to get The day will come when the time comes You can listen to all my demos: http://www.youtube.com/user/drumremix Bye Nelson [This message has been edited by drumremix (edited 01-09-2010).]
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#277584 - 01/10/10 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by drumremix: there is no official date for the release of version 4. This message is just to remind you worth waiting for the official release. Last time I had removed my videos, because many people have contacted Ketron about when released version 3.0a! Version 4 is not available, do not call Ketron, they will not respond. You're lucky to have this space for information, not waste it, take your evil with patience Thanks You see what I mean, I don't give a toss if there are 4500 items in the thread, it's certainly not working, you cant hit Ketron with as much abuse as you want it must be obvious they don't give a toss, if I was happy about the situation you would not hear a tweet out of me. Ketron have their heads up their bums. Now we don't have a date for OS4, mind you even thats not official either, that's from Drumremix, theres more chance of James being right about OS4. Hey and don't call Ketron they won't answer, what's new, they wouldn't anyway on any matter! You know, people need to be glad that some folks have bought the Audya and gone in feet first, we are the testers and all others who watch SZ can sit back and wait until we get it right so you can buy in confidence, if ever! Regards [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 01-10-2010).]
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#277586 - 01/10/10 06:17 AM
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#277594 - 01/10/10 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Diki: Sorry, Tony, but if OS4 doesn't fix your woes, all we need to hear is just that simple fact... Take your Audya back to the shop, get your money back IN FULL, and give us all a rest here. You are preaching to the choir.
Trouble was, you never DID pressure Ketron... You think bitching here to the point of absurdity actually does anything to Ketron? No, asking for your money back is applying pressure..! Organizing everybody that DOES have the same problems to return THEIR units is applying pressure. Filing a class action lawsuit against Ketron is applying pressure
But doing nothing more than come here and vent ad nauseam isn't exactly putting their feet to the fire.
How about giving US a rest, and directing your ire in a constructive way to Ketron?Diki, You’re on the money again I can't fault it, but when you have been told that the Audya is the best KB ever, by a dealer who has been in the business for 40 years you think WOW. Come to think of it has anyone on SZ said the Audya sounds are crap just the opposite most people says it’s the best sounding KB around. So I know your sick of it all and from what I hear it will all be over this week, or next. I can go back to my day job. Incidentally, Diki you don’t need to reply to my ramblings at all you can just read, take in or spew out, I think it’s a learning curve for us all, especially the younger member of SZ not to be taken in with people who have been in the business that long that they can’t see crap when they see it, they sell you something that they know is not just right but they choose to still sell it to you. Diki, just admit you are just as intrigued as we all are to see this to a final conclusion, I would like to get it right and Drumermix and AJ have both had a ticking off by Ketron, what the hell would they do to me if I was associated with them, a violin case on the door step and BOOM! Peace at last Diki and the Auyda still out there. I could write a freaking book about this saga, be like Dallas and you could play JR and me AJ, or I could just put you in the acknowledgements, that you have some positive input in me sending the KB back, that would be a great ending. Have a good one . Cheers Tony PS Diki I have just read what I just wrote and I know I am losing the plot, it's all down to Audya not meeeeeeeeeeeeee! The prozac is wearing off I need something stronger! Hearsy Bars [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 01-10-2010).]
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#277597 - 01/11/10 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by leezone: OS 4.0 will BLOW everyone's socks off
as a matter of fact, it will be so good that even DIKI will buy an AUDYA,
Diki, you will finally be able to play that C7 b10B13 chord, ALL in real audio :-)
[This message has been edited by leezone (edited 01-11-2010).] Leezone, Will Audya have better echo on OS4 like you, look above, two items, two items, and what do you know about OS4 that Diki will have buy one, I don't think so, he may be sat on the fence waiting for it to all go OK, but not in his life time. Cheers
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#277600 - 01/11/10 03:07 PM
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Posting twice is an example if lack of patience (the page doesn't come up immediately, so you hit 'Submit Reply' AGAIN, just out of frustration!)... But, come to think of it, this entire thread (and the other Tony led epic odysseys ) probably fits the above description! Tony thinks he'll be glad once it is all over. He's not the ONLY one, I guarantee! It's a shame the old G70 Users Forum is not still up (it morphed into the Roland-Arranger.com site, but much of the original two or three year's worth of posts got left behind). To be honest, the bug forum was an exercise in how to communicate effectively about problems with the OS or operational aspects. We tracked down the issues for ourselves. We made SURE that we didn't call anything a 'bug' until it could be reliably repeated. We were (relatively!) patient, we were methodical, and the end result was, most bugs got fixed. Most 'wishlist' operational changes got made (or many of them, anyway!). Nobody had a heart attack And, at the end of the day, despite Roland NEVER contacting us directly (our Forum Admin had some 'back channel' direct communication he never made specific) we felt like we WERE getting stuff done. Were I a Ketron user, were I Ketron, I would try to set up something like this. Nothing beats the feeling that, despite it being slower than you would LIKE, getting something done involves you and the R&D guys working together... I believe I said from the start that the Audya was trying to bite off something a bit bigger than they could chew, but kudos to them for being crazy enough to go ahead and do it anyway! At least they made sure that the CONTENT of this semi-open arranger was the PRIMARY task for them. For all its' faults, at least THEY understood the arranger market, and provided knock your socks off CONTENT, without which it would have probably suffered the same fate as the MS. It's obvious (from Don's posts) that there IS a workflow that doesn't crash the Audya, and he is ecstatic with his (to the point where he is selling his E80!). So, at this point, it's up to EVERYBODY with an Audya to try and sort this out, not just the beta team (who seem a little TOO enthusiastic - beta testers need to be steely eyed skeptics to be effective!) and Ketron. Venting don't get the job done. Cooperation, collectivism and some organization gets the job done! How much faster do you think these issues would get fixed if ALL Audya users were on it, rather than just a handful? But Roland didn't organize the G70 Users Club. WE did it... (with their tacit cooperation). Your call, Ketron users, but if you want this thing FIXED, I'd think carefully about it...
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#277604 - 01/12/10 02:14 PM
Re: Audya OS 4
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I currently have an Audya version 4 in beta test. this is my sixth AUDYA since it is sold! I knew from the beginning of huge problems. These problems are partly solved since version 3.0a. Version 4 is stable, I played the evening of December 31, only one crash, requiring reboots, because of registration! I said that I realize all my styles with waves in parts audiodrums user. critical points from Audya, are:
**Memory-Ram ridiculous, unworthy of a machine of the 21st century ... Of the 64 Mb, 16 Mb are dedicated to Live Guitars, which leaves only 48 mb for SuperSolo!
**Design patterns-not from the keyboard ....
**Ergonomics ill-considered ...
**Pitch Bend ill-adapted as a model PA2 Pro X would be better . . **A touch screen is not a luxury!
Musically, the Audya has no lessons to take from its competitors! What a pleasure to play with a virtual group
Wait a little longer, ca worth waiting .....
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#277607 - 01/12/10 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by drumremix: I currently have an Audya version 4 in beta test. this is my sixth AUDYA since it is sold! I knew from the beginning of huge problems. These problems are partly solved since version 3.0a. Version 4 is stable, I played the evening of December 31, only one crash, requiring reboots, because of registration! I said that I realize all my styles with waves in parts audiodrums user. critical points from Audya, are:
**Memory-Ram ridiculous, unworthy of a machine of the 21st century ... Of the 64 Mb, 16 Mb are dedicated to Live Guitars, which leaves only 48 mb for SuperSolo!
**Design patterns-not from the keyboard ....
**Ergonomics ill-considered ...
**Pitch Bend ill-adapted as a model PA2 Pro X would be better . . **A touch screen is not a luxury!
Musically, the Audya has no lessons to take from its competitors! What a pleasure to play with a virtual group
Wait a little longer, ca worth waiting .....
Nelson
[This message has been edited by drumremix (edited 01-12-2010).] Just what I said this is his 6th Auyda, what was wrong with the other 5 and he says that OS4 crashed 31 Dec only once, how many times do you need it to crash, this on OS4. I am I right or wrong about the Audya it's still not right on OS4, I don't think Don hitting those button hard enough. I rest my case! Tony
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#277611 - 01/13/10 01:47 PM
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Just curious, but now that the Audya is stable, NOW is the time you whine about things that are perfectly obvious BEFORE you buy one? You knew the RAM size before you bought it. You knew the ergonomics before you bought it. You knew where the pitch bend wheel was before you bought it, you knew what poor style editing and creation Ketron has had, historically (if you didn't have an SD-1, at least you could research what tools it provided and extrapolate)... And please... the most successful TOTL arranger out there doesn't have a touch screen (T3). Doesn't seem to be hurting IT. Now, don't get me wrong, I am as big a fan of touch screens as the next guy, but it's hardly a reason to complain. As bad as button pushing got the Audya to crash, do you think it would be any better if it had a touch screen? Personally, I think that the speed of loading RAM is FAR more important than how much there is. 64MB, if it loads in a jiffy, is better than 512MB that takes twenty minutes... And, finally, sorry to say it, but of all the Audya users here (however few there are) only ONE is actually posting any music with his, and the rest of you are just posting tirades or pie in the sky gushings, but no music. What did you buy it for? To practice beta testing? To appreciate the software? Or did anybody buy it to MAKE MUSIC? You honestly trying to tell us that you can't get it to not crash for even just one song? Let's hear why you have stuck with it so long... [This message has been edited by Diki (edited 01-13-2010).]
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#277613 - 01/13/10 10:28 PM
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Semilive was kind enough to cover for me last Thursday when I was in the hospital. He was also kind enough to load up my keyboard and take it home with him. He kept it until Monday night, which was the first time I needed it again. In the meantime, he wrote and recorded nine new songs, all on the Audya. It evidently inspired him. Oh and by the way, he ordered one himself. It will be here Saturday. I'm discovering new things about mine every night. It is a really deep machine and has numerous ways to accomplish tasks, including various display modes. I'm really enjoying it. I almost relish the slow nights, when I can experiment at will. Tonight I auditioned some 30 or so patterns that were labeled Midjay Plus Bonus Styles. Most were song-styles and all worked very well, with little tweaking necessary. There are many more I didn't get to yet, or that I played a measure or so and decided it wasn't my kind of music. So far no real problems. Knock, knock on wood. DonM
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#277617 - 01/14/10 10:39 AM
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[QUOTE] Originalmente enviada por Tony Hughes: [B] O relógio parou também irlandês James, que cada vez que você está recebendo a sua informação de cerca de OS4 deve ser a mesma fonte confiável como AJ. talvez direto da fábrica, talvez eles também não sei, Durmermix diz não perguntar-lhes, eles não vão te dizer. Looks like Drumermix teve outra bollocking da Ketron ele tomou a sua imagem de fora OS4.A SZ, ainda estão no nosso, isso é uma grande gargalhada e as pessoas não podem vê-lo. Atenciosamente [Esta mensagem foi editada por Tony Hughes (editado 01-12-2010 ).][/ B] [/ QUOTE] I took the picture because it is in triplicate on the forum!! if you watch or hosted the photo you constatere it from my forum: http://ketronfance.leforum.eu Ketron, do not ask for my picture removed! This is not a joke !!!!! I note only that some people here, know no or very little about. Criticism is good, but only when it is constcructive .... Leave Ketron finish this version 4. At Korg, Yamaha, there are also problems, but it's easier to criticize a small manufacturer that a giant. I'm tired of hearing certain truths cons, then let time take its course, Those who are not satisfied with their Audya, sad and damaging, but it's not just Ketron on this world, so he can freely go see if the grass is not greener on the other side of meadow. thank you has you [This message has been edited by drumremix (edited 01-14-2010).]
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#277619 - 01/14/10 11:17 AM
Re: Audya OS 4
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Registered: 08/25/05
Posts: 73
Loc: france
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One last thing! Instead of criticizing free, why do not we listen to what you do with your Audya? At least nobody besides me has a really do! I realize to this day about 17 demo, the keyboard is rather stable! And yet, with my first model (I'm on my sixth!) I had the worst problèmes.Je resold them all one after the other until a really stable version, which is the case since version 3.0 has I gathered all the information Sandro Fontanella (Ketron Italy) on all issues, even the most insignificant since the product is marketed. It is I who am also asking that the "Audya Style Format" is released. Version 4 will be a major update, but certainly not the last ... The Audya has not yet yielded all its secrets. So please, do not complain, tell us what does not truly, in this way, we'll move forward faster
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