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#278775 - 01/05/10 02:50 PM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
mdorantes Offline
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I use this this all the time on my Tyros3 and also in my Korg PA 500.
The Korg has "Performances"= Registrations, that I pre-program on it.
You can use also the "lock" tempo on the Korg if you want to change styles while playing too.

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#278776 - 01/05/10 04:01 PM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Bill ... how did it go?
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[This message has been edited by tony mads usa (edited 01-05-2010).]
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#278777 - 01/06/10 01:58 AM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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I love to change styles while I'm playing. If you've got a bank full of swing styles, there's nothing cooler than using them for different sections. I don't know about Yamaha, but one of the strengths of Roland's is that there is NEVER a 'glitch' going from one tone to another or one style to another. Totally seamless switch-overs...

So you can either program different registrations that call up just the way you want them (this allows for tempo changes between sections) or just put your tone and tempo lock on, and call up styles willy nilly.

For something as specific as Bill's 'And the Angels Sing' I would just program two adjacent User Programs (sort of Yamaha Registrations, but ten to a page on the touchscreen) with the Swing and Latin sections preset for each. A simple touch on the screen (or a dedicated F/S up/down on the FC-7) and you go from one section to another.

Easy...
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#278778 - 01/06/10 02:55 AM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Sounds like the old organ days, where you had limited rhythms and swapped between different rhythms to get a variation of the sound/style. (Of course if you had a posh organ, you could alter the drum sounds and voices within the rhythm on the fly
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#278779 - 01/06/10 08:06 AM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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It can be seamlessly done with Yamaha, and most other keyboards, either as registrations, or merely just selecting another style, and the tempo, unless programmed for a change, will remain constant.

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#278780 - 01/06/10 09:11 AM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Exactly like you guys said...not hard at all.

This opens up some new avenues!

I better not forget to make sure any details like keys for example are all considered. That's not the way to encounter an unplanned modulation, eh guys?

Thanks for your help everyone.

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#278781 - 01/06/10 01:39 PM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:

I better not forget to make sure any details like keys for example are all considered. That's not the way to encounter an unplanned modulation, eh guys?



Bill ... glad things worked out well ...
Funny thing about the "unplanned modulation" ... there have been a couple of instances when due to a sore throat or something like that, I've hit the transpose button down a 1/2 step or two and sure enough I've gone to a second PM and UH-OH ... there's that key change ... fortunately, I can change the PMs rather quickly when I need to ...
Have fun with it ...
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#278782 - 01/06/10 02:28 PM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Mastering those 'Hold' commands can help avoid those 'oops!' moments. I'm playing in a band with a girl singer who LOVES to change keys by just a few semi's, often on tunes that I've played for decades in the original, things like Superstition, Play that Funky Music, things like that. I just generally hit the t'pose button, but all hell breaks loose if I forget it is on if I decide to change registrations mid song

Presetting the Hold button to preserve Transposition cured that, though. But I STILL have to remember to disengage it when I go to the next song!
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#278783 - 01/06/10 09:32 PM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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I became aware of the issue of transposition in the E80 vs either the T3 or the PA500, to ME, the way is set up in Yamaha & Korg works better for my playing style.


The way I setup my T3, I can be transposed let's say 3 half steps up, and recall ANY registration I wish, and will remain in the same key, this is really good for me, if I am playing with a singer or somebody else that needs that "X" song in that particular key, I still can use the technic of changing styles/registrations with out a glitch in either tempo, transpose, etc. within the same song.


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#278784 - 01/07/10 03:47 AM Re: Suggestions on using two different styles within a single tune...
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Same with Roland...

Set a transposition, engage 'Hold' change anything you want and the t'pose stays on.

Plus, every now and again I get a guitarist that likes to detune a half step. There's a Global Transpose in the Tune master page that is independent of the front panel t'pose, so you can drop down a semi or whole tone (-6 to +5, actually) and still use the regular transpose buttons as well... Take Hold off, and the Global T'pose still is in effect.

Best of both worlds...
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