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#279373 - 01/15/10 06:45 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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True stereo is one of the biggest problems with Leslie sims, especially built-ins... Many do not offer a stereo WIDTH parameter (only the G70 MFX VK sim has that, the HB section has no controls at all), and if you play out live with your speakers say 20' apart, the Leslie is 20' wide too. Unrealistic. Fine for the 3' separated internal speakers, but a 20' wide Leslie? Leslie NEVER built one of those!
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#279374 - 01/16/10 03:04 AM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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No,I'm running through my Bose. There is a simple rewire that can convert the module to stereo if needed.
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#279375 - 01/16/10 12:51 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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I am playing the B4 on the MediaStation..into the Roland BA330 stereo amp..and it sounds great..just the right separation for the Leslie simulator...For me you can't beat B4...

As Bill mentioned I also have the VB3 organ software..it sounds great too..but not up there with the B4..
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#279376 - 01/16/10 01:27 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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I have B4II on the Receptor and I think it is as good as the Nord. It adapts well to the Vent also. In stereo, I'll bet it sounds good.
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#279377 - 01/16/10 01:59 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Bernie, I have the original B4 and B4II..I think I like the original best...but both are simply hard to beat..

The MediaStation gives me all the hardware control surface to make the B4 shine..

I don't come away from the Nord products with the same feeling..they don't light my fire..and I don't see the same excitement that Diki and Chas has for the Nord..sorry, it ain't no B4..

And the pianos...give me a break.. They don't measure up to other dedicated stage pianos..

Add the lack of realtime "old fashioned slider draw bars...and you have
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#279378 - 01/16/10 02:10 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Fran, you're talking software with the B4, so I'd say that the controller(s) had some effect on the performance. I know that the voice itself sounds pretty good but I also know that there isn't a single ORGAN PLAYER in world that would opt for a B4 (with whatever controller) over a Nord C1 or C2, with or without drawbars (or even an XB3c, especially if it had bass pedals and an expression pedal). With organs, you can't leave out the 'playability' factor.

chas
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#279379 - 01/16/10 02:24 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Chas, as I mentioned before..the Hammond XB3c is in a class by itself..there is no finer hardware organ on the market to top it...

BTW: where are these organ players that endorse the Nord..
I can't think of a single player that would not want real draw bars...except you..
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#279380 - 01/16/10 02:52 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:

BTW: where are these organ players that endorse the Nord..
I can't think of a single player that would not want real draw bars...except you..


Here again, people read what they want to hear. Where did I mention the word 'endorse'? I said they'd pick a Nord Cx over a software organ. Also, I have never said (EVER, EVER) that I preferred Nord's system over real drawbars. But I prefer it over the cost, weight, and setup time of a TWO-manual XB3c system. I also think they match up pretty well in the tone and Leslie sim departments. If it were to be set up permanently in my home, I'd probably go for a full-blown XB system, maybe even over an authentic 'B3' (maintenance, etc.). Not sure. Would depend on the condition of the B. People on this board DO have a way of putting words into people's mouths.

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#279381 - 01/16/10 02:54 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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All posts I have read say you can get used to it pretty fast, but it is not the same as grabbing a fistful of drawbars. In spite of this small initial workaround, I like my Electro II and would like a C1 or C2 better, and at $1400 it suits me fine.
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#279382 - 01/16/10 03:14 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
Fran, you're talking software with the B4, so I'd say that the controller(s) had some effect on the performance. I know that the voice itself sounds pretty good but I also know that there isn't a single ORGAN PLAYER in world that would opt for a B4 (with whatever controller) over a Nord C1 or C2, with or without drawbars (or even an XB3c, especially if it had bass pedals and an expression pedal). With organs, you can't leave out the 'playability' factor.

chas


Maybe I got confused with this quote..
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