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#279363 - 01/15/10 03:58 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
Bernie9 Offline
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Chas
You could very well be right, but we are talking about degrees of betterment. I have already improved my sim immeasurably. Now, the forums I frequent speak of the improvement with their C1 Nords and the latest Hammond-Suzuki boards. I am speaking of pros not duffers. The bottom line is that the Ventilator makes the worst sound good and the best sound better.
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#279364 - 01/15/10 04:04 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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You are right. I didn't post accurately regarding the K2661. I know that it can be done. I haven't used the Ventilator with it, but once, to test it out. The problem is that I just got it and haven't got other reg's up to speed to go with it. I got too many toys at one time.
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#279365 - 01/15/10 04:06 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Originally posted by Bernie9:

Diki
Thanks for the downside of reversing things, but, it works for me, as I have reverb on the Bose mixer. I realize that the reverb is global, but I love the Roland organ tones and the Ventilator makes it truly authentic. I quess I will have to live with an imperfect solution, but it sure beats using the mains and the internal rotory sim.

Bernie


Thing is, Bernie, if you are using the arranger section, you are now reverbing the hell out of your kick and bass guitar. Mud city (unless the reverb levels are so low that you might as well not have them on instruments that DO need it)...

Me, if I want a much better B3 than is in the G70 (I don't do enough that features it so nakedly that I can't get away with the G70's HB section at the moment), I would look around for a used Nord Electro2 Rack. To be honest, even discounting the Leslie, the G70's HB section is a LONG way away from being authentic, the Vib/Chor isn't right, the distortion is a joke (POST-fader! Give me a break!), and the response and even SOUND of the drawbars is not as good as most dedicated sims... No way to get it bass-y enough (no separate EQ for ONLY the HB section, which is the one that needs it the most)...

What did the Ventilator cost you? I would imagine you could get a good used Electro2 Rack for little more than double what just the Ventilator cost new, and you get awesome Clav's and Wurli's (weak in the G70, IMO) thrown in for free! Not to mention, your full G70 back, effects, MFX's etc. included...
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#279366 - 01/15/10 04:20 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
Bernie9 Offline
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Since I haven't tried this out in the field, I didn't know about the loss of effects, and adding global might very well wind up as you say. Thanks for the advise. The Ventilator is $450 plus $49 shipping from Germany.
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#279367 - 01/15/10 04:27 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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I've seen Nord Electro Racks for around $700+, from time to time...
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#279368 - 01/15/10 04:53 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
Bernie9 Offline
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Taking my Electro board is no trouble. I am trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, I guess. I am going to try different reverb combinations and if it doesn't work, I have plenty of other ways to go.
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#279369 - 01/15/10 05:05 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Forgot you already had one of those!

Yep, it does seem you are gilding the lily...

But if you get happy with the G70/Ventilator combo, drop me a line and we'll talk about your E Rack... (seeing as Nord have dropped racks for the E3 )
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#279370 - 01/15/10 05:32 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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I don't have a E-rack. It's a 61.
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#279371 - 01/15/10 06:25 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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As light and great as they are, I'd STILL stick to that, myself...

As you might have gathered, I am a HUGE Nord fan
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#279372 - 01/15/10 06:35 PM Re: Ventilator Rotory With G70
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Are you running a true full-stereo amplification system with the simulator?


TIA,


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