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#282270 - 02/27/10 09:12 AM
Re: Stupid question about a Behringer mixer
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Lots of electronics no longer come with a power switch. The best option is to plug this stuff into a surge protector, which provides you with some protection from surges, and has an on/off switch and indicator lamp. The other option is to install an inexpensive, inline power switch. Gary
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#282271 - 02/27/10 09:51 AM
Re: Stupid question about a Behringer mixer
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Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
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Worries of the small power unit causing a fire are unwarranted.
Check the power unit for the UL, CSA, etc. listing.
The supplies are designed with internal fusing such that the worst-case scenario would simply result in a nonworking wallwart when you returned home from that vacation.
FWIW -- I have a Behringer Eurorack UB-802 here that also has no Power Switch. It has been turned on and running continually for going on five years. Of course, my entire studio chain runs from a UPS and Power Conditioner here.
I also have Mic Preamps in the studio that I NEVER turn off, preferring to keep them at operating temperature at all times so that whenever I wish to use them, I don't have to suffer through the thermal noise of tube or solid state circuit warmup. A common practice, actually, that is also used with equipments that must be kept at a calibrated point as well.
Temperature cycling and the resulting expansion/contraction involved, can often be the creator of circuit problems. Leaving units that draw very small amounts of power, such as that little Berry mixer, turned on all the time may just contribute to a longer mean lifetime before failure for the unit, provided you have properly "massaged" AC power available.
--Mac
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#282273 - 02/28/10 02:30 PM
Re: Stupid question about a Behringer mixer
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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There a reason (several, really) why things need power switches. Firstly, a power switch allows YOU to choose the order that things get powered on. Imagine if everyone took Behringer's cost cutting measure (there's really no other way to look at it) and failed to provide power switches. Everything comes on at the same time, usually putting a nice pop through your speakers, and a nice sag in the power voltage. And, in case no-one noticed, there's a movement to try to cut our dependence on fossil fuels and nuclear power. Turning off what doesn't absolutely need to be on all the time saves energy (and you money), and, in the end, you are STILL going to have to switch it off SOMEWHERE... All Behringer are doing is making you pay for a separate switch, rather than, like just about every other make of mixer (including budget ones), including one so YOU have the option what to switch off. So now, when you look at the price of a Behringer mixer, factor in the cost of a power strip as well... What's next? Maybe drop volume controls on our arrangers? I mean, we got a fader on our mixers, don't we?
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#282276 - 02/28/10 03:59 PM
Re: Stupid question about a Behringer mixer
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Diki hit the nail on the head. It's simply a cost-cutting measure--nothing more. And, anything electrical can develop a short circuit--anything. If it's plugged into an electrical outlet, and does not have an on/off switch, not only is it vulnerable to a power surge, but as Diki stated you cannot select the sequence the equipment is turned on or off, which in some instances, could cause serious damage to other equipment. What I find really interesting is that when your TV is turned off by remote control it's not really off. Instead, it's in a standby mode. It still draws power and over a year's time that can amount to a significant increase in your electric bill. Install an inline switch, or use a surge protector--it's a lot safer and less expensive. Cheers, Gary
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