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#282732 - 03/05/10 04:31 PM Leezone Better Deals in USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Leezone,

Audya only $4999 in the States, thats £3300,... Here in UK it's £4200.00, what's mine worth in the States and don't be rude!
And Frank even says make him an offer he can't refuse, now where have I heard that before??

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ketron-Audya -76-not...=item20adc6cfc8

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#282733 - 03/06/10 12:34 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Tony,
you should buy your Audya here in Norway. Price reduced from £6710
down to £5480 at the moment, but I'm sure you don't have to beg hard
to pay the "full/ordinary" price.
As far as I understand it, the more you pay the better it will be?
Conlusion:
You paid far to little for your Audya, or else it would be perfect!

Cheers
GJ


Btw, I'm gonna wait till price is rised even more before buy Audya.
Then I know for sure I'll get a real wondermachine ......
Tyros 3 and PA2X Pro cost only £3690 here at the moment, so I guess
that's not worth concider at all?
Well, that's of course if it's true that pricelevel mirror quality.
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#282734 - 03/06/10 02:23 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Tony,
you should buy your Audya here in Norway. Price reduced from £6710
down to £5480 at the moment, but I'm sure you don't have to beg hard
to pay the "full/ordinary" price.
As far as I understand it, the more you pay the better it will be?
Conlusion:
You paid far to little for your Audya, or else it would be perfect!

Cheers
GJ


Btw, I'm gonna wait till price is rised even more before buy Audya.
Then I know for sure I'll get a real wondermachine ......
Tyros 3 and PA2X Pro cost only £3690 here at the moment, so I guess
that's not worth concider at all?
Well, that's of course if it's true that pricelevel mirror quality.


Jonny I thought it was been creamed in the UK why the high price in Norway, perhaps the dealer only order 1 that's not an AJ 1 BTW. If you paid that much money for a KB, you would be bitching all the way back to the bank, no wonder you are sat on the fence.You stay there I don't think there is a OS4, I think its a trick! I think if you go to Italy you will buy the Audya in the high street for a couple of grand £2000.00

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#282735 - 03/06/10 03:35 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Manufactures charge according to the market.

Norway is very affluent which is why they charge more.

UK Middle Class = Norway Pauper.

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#282736 - 03/06/10 04:37 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Quote:
Originally posted by abacus:
Manufactures charge according to the market.

Norway is very affluent which is why they charge more.


Ahh, so the rule is, if you have more money than me, you should be charged more
when we buy the same product?
Compared to i.e. Yamaha, Roland and Korg, Ketron most have been looking into some
different statistics when establish the pricelevel here.
Also if they're aiming for volume sales this is the wrong place to twist up the
earnings/profit, because population is only 4.9 million people here.

Cheers
GJ
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#282737 - 03/06/10 06:26 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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GJ
I think a lot of KB price in Norway goes to pay taxes. 25% salestax, and probably some customtax, than the shippingcost to the dealers are also quite high. It wouldn't supprise me if factoryprice is the same as to any other country. May be the dealers also like to make a little bit more money on a sale, than in the US.( really don't know)
skude

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#282738 - 03/06/10 06:35 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by skude:
GJ
I think a lot of KB price in Norway goes to pay taxes. 25% salestax, and probably some customtax, than the shippingcost to the dealers are also quite high. It wouldn't supprise me if factoryprice is the same as to any other country. May be the dealers also like to make a little bit more money on a sale, than in the US.( really don't know)
skude


I think you are right Skude, I thought it might be high import tax and maybe greedy dealers, sure the factory price must be the same, according to the currency.

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#282739 - 03/06/10 06:57 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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No imort tax at all, elektronic music instrumens are duty free goods, but there are 25% VAT
to add when take it in to the country. Also the shipping cost will be added VAT.
I've checked it out at the custom/toll office.

Cheers
GJ
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#282740 - 03/06/10 07:55 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
No imort tax at all, elektronic music instrumens are duty free goods, but there are 25% VAT
to add when take it in to the country. Also the shipping cost will be added VAT.
I've checked it out at the custom/toll office.

Cheers
GJ



Jonny,

I think you are close to getting an Audya, come on tell the truth. Miss a few mortgage payments and you get one, you will soon catch up.

Tony
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#282741 - 03/06/10 07:59 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:


Tony,

Well, that's of course if it's true that price level mirror quality.


Jonny,

I know even you don't believe that!

Tony
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#282742 - 03/06/10 09:25 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
I think you are close to getting an Audya, come on tell the truth. Miss a few mortgage payments and you get one, you will soon catch up.


Tony,
I've been ready for it since I sold the SD1, but Audya did never come out before long after the
date we where told it would be.

As I said before, it's not the money, they are made to be used, but I refuse to feel like ripped
off when a deal is closed, specially when the gap is as high as we see comparing to the rest of
the world.

If buy a car, diesel oil, gasoline, a bottle of iqueur or sigarettes here, we know what make the
high prices, BIG HEAVY tax rates, but who in h*** put the money in pocket when we buy Audya.
Dealers? If so, why are'nt T3 and PA2X Pro priced higher compared to other countries as well?

Anyway, I'm eager to get one, maybe buy it via Denmark, but not before we see the reports when
OS4 shows up and what goodies and fixes to come. Also I agree in what said in other tread, the
production of addon styles and stuff does not impress me much.
Frankfurt is just a couple of weeks away, lets see what that bring ..........

Cheers
GJ
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#282743 - 03/06/10 09:44 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Loc: VA/ USA
The price difference in Norway has probably something to do with the fact that Norway is not a member of the EU. However, they probably have some trade agreements established with the EU, but the consumer will still pay a higher price.

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#282744 - 03/06/10 09:55 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
abacus Offline
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi GJ
If your converted prices of the T3 and PA2x are correct, then in Norway they are approximately £1000 - 1300 more expensive then the UK.
If you compare price for price on most things, you will also find that they are considerably more expensive in Norway then in the UK.

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#282745 - 03/06/10 10:51 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
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Loc: NW Florida
Perhaps you might consider what a small company Ketron is, compared to giants like Yamaha and Korg and Roland... Even though they are all based in Italy, YK&R benefit from synth engines and sample libraries developed by their parent companies in Japan. That drives down production costs bigtime, something that Ketron are unable to do...

Economy of scale makes a HUGE difference...

And, don't forget, you aren't comparing apples to apples. It's not like PA2, T3 or E80's can play audio loops as part of the basic OS. If they could, then perhaps we would be justified in expecting the Audya's price to be in line with YK&R. But as it stands, until the Big3 come out with arrangers with similar capabilities, Ketron stand alone. Not only the more expensive arranger because of capability, but also because of cost of production...
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#282746 - 03/06/10 11:38 AM Re: Leezone Better Deals in USA
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Yes, in Norway prices are generally high compared to others. But that's not what bother me here
because that is something we're used to live with.

To say it in another way, why is'nt the price differences similiar when compare other keyboards
of other brands? The gap between what we pay here and i.e. USA or UK should be just as big in
percentage regardless of what brand/model if no other reasons are to find.
Looking at SD5, and back to SD1, the gap is/was similiar as between other brands sold in other
countries, but the gap between Audya and the other brand/models who are soooo much higher here
than rest of the world, that's what I have problems to find any reasonable good reason for.

Cheers
GJ
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