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#284975 - 04/16/10 09:20 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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thank you Ian for taking the time
GREATLY appreciated

THANKS you also for making me realize how the YAMAHA's guitars pale in comparison to the AUDYA's IMO

this makes my decision in getting the AUDYA a no-brainer,

so it's not just bass and drums that shine with AUDYA, it's guitars too,

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#284976 - 04/16/10 09:35 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Thanks Ian, they sound pretty, although you would need two guitars to strum and play a bass note in real life.

I liked the classical guitar, although you can hear the sequence repeating (fret noise) every few bars which is a little annoying once you notice it.


Thanks TWD...I just grabbed the first styles I saw in each category...there are some that are done over 8 and 16 bars that have less repetition...I also used only the A variation.

The T3 sounds even better....no kidding...the S910 is under $2000 retail, so I think it's a great bang for the buck.

I'm a guitar player, and those chords are possible on one guitar...sometimes it depends on the key you play in, and, of course, your skill level.

And no, I'm not uploading my guitar playing.

Ian
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#284977 - 04/16/10 09:53 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by leezone:


thank you Ian for taking the time
GREATLY appreciated

this makes my decision in getting the AUDYA a no-brainer,

so it's not just bass and drums that shine with AUDYA, it's guitars too,


You're welcome, Lee, and somehow, your decision in getting the Audya being a no-brainer, is somehow ironic.

If you don't buy a Yamaha, or Korg, or whatever, it just means it frees up one for someone who really wants one, so your decision is a positive one for all concerned.

Looking forward to your review, and maybe even a little demo.

Ian
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#284978 - 04/16/10 09:55 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
Tonewheeldude Offline
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As this thread was about the Audya (not knocking the Yamaha in any way) I just want to say this by way of summary;

The Audya is not about any one aspect, its not just the massively long drum loops recorded by specialist percussionists, the very cool and unpredicatble bass player that changes riffs on each chord variation, the live acoustic, classical and electric guitars or even the natural sound of the lead and pad voices, its all of those elements combining together to make you feel that you are playing with live musicians.

Its that unique experience that gives owners of Audya's the lift that only can be found when you play with other human beings...and that is something that cannot be demonstrated by any ammount of demos, sound bites, questions or discussions.

And only those of us that have played with live musicians can know what I am talking about.

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#284979 - 04/16/10 10:01 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
leezone Offline
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tonewheel

thanks
i've played with live musicians most of my life
now, due to economy, more duo work

so yes i miss playing with that live feel

but not for long :-)

when is that AUDYA4 coming out again?

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#284980 - 04/16/10 10:08 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
ianmcnll Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:


And only those of us that have played with live musicians can know what I am talking about.



Of course TWD...that's why the Audya costs so much...understandably so.

It still doesn't replace playing in a "live" band, as the players play differently every night...and only those of us that have played with live musicians can know what I am talking about.

Still, the Audya is another step closer to sounding "live" when using an arranger, and, it does sound very impressive.

Thanks for uploading the guitar tracks.

Ian
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#284981 - 04/16/10 10:14 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Still, the Audya is another step closer to sounding "live" when using an arranger, and, it does sound very impressive.


Ian,

I think you AND Diki are both starting to fall in love with the AUDYA :-)

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#284982 - 04/16/10 10:15 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
The "only" time guitar sounds realistic..when it is played "correctly" as a guitarist would voice chords....a keyboardist style play, just doesn't cut it..sure it can sound ok, but will not sound real...including the favorable Yamaha "Concert" guitar...

I understand why certain chord inversions are not possible on the Audya...because they are not possible on the real guitar and guitarist that played the recorded audio tracks...This isn't difficult to understand..

So they left in the capabilities of a midi sorted guitar to fill in for the more "novice" keyboardists trying to produce a real guitar part....Does it sound real? No, not at all to someone that knows what a guitar can and can not play...For the vast majority that it sounds ok, because they don't know better....the midi guitar parts will sound ok to them anyway..

Just listen to sequences (midi), that a guitar part is recorded by a keyboard player, and listen to a midi sequence recorded via a "Midi guitar" and a guitarist....I rest my case...

Audya is on the right track.....If you like your midi guitar strums that do not and can not sound like a real guitar....be happy and play them..

BUT!!!!!!! Don't fault the company that does it right...


I have been fortunate enough to know keyboard players that excelled in voicing guitar on a keyboard...no coincidence that they were also great guitarist...

Me..I am one of the keyboardist that struggle to sound like a guitarist...

But I do recognize the difference...
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#284983 - 04/16/10 10:30 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by leezone:
Ian,

I think you AND Diki are both starting to fall in love with the AUDYA :-)


Well perhaps Diki will fall in love with it, but not me...I like the balanced, detailed and cohesive sound of Yamaha...works perfect for both live and for making CDs, and that's what I want in a keyboard.

But I must admit, the Audya is probably the most overall "live" sounding arranger today, plucking the crown from the aging G-70, and perhaps the Korg series as well.

But, as I say, we all know what we want to hear coming out of our speakers...Audya works for you, and maybe Diki, and perhaps it will finally get Fran away from that old G-70.

It certainly has you completely overwhelmed.

Ian
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#284984 - 04/16/10 10:44 AM Re: Audya?? What is all the fuss about..?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
"will finally get Fran away from that old G-70."

Not I..I can't afford an Audya...I would have to give up my waffles with strawberries and ice cream...
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