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#285297 - 04/19/10 02:31 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
Nedim Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by DanO1:
If I was being considered for a job and made glowing remarks about a product that I was invited to see, hear, evaluate and posted those positive comments on a public forum on the internet.

Then after finding out that the job would work out, you start to publically trash the product, I would call that as having poor taste and being unprofessional.


Since you changed your post now what i said above probably wont make sense now:
I am repeating that i am not trashing the product, i just state facts that are there, we cannot
ignore those facts, i am not saying things out of my brain for no reason, trust me i know
exactly what i am talking about. This has nothing to do with a job being offered or anything,
i was/am in the area and had the opportunity to check the machine, which i have also done
for Korg, under different circumstances, in this case, Directly for Korg USA, under their own
menagement, together with Jerry Kowarski. I trashed/bashed (as you call it) them too, i was
asked to be honest, by Jerry for Korg and also by Ted for Ketron. Thats what i did. Not honest
with them but honest with the public cuz i deal with him a lot. They have probably been aware
of the damage/advertisement i could do but they chosed me to be honest. This is what i am saying:

1. It doesnt have a good FX processor
2. It doesnt have a Style Creator
3. It doesnt have a good Sampling Editor
4. It doesnt have any Sound editing capabilities
5. It doesnt have enough RAM for using Sampled material
6. Lacking all these things the price is too high

Now, i would like someone to ENLIGHTEN me where is in here the BASHING/TRASHING i am
saying or my opinions...are all of these 6 points something i created in my head???
Now, you keep crying YEAH BUT ITS AN ARRANGER WE WANT ARRANGER FEATURES.
Who cares? As you have the right to as for arranger features and bash at it cuz dont have some
dont i have the same exact right to say from my point of view or from my needs?

And as far as bashing/trashing goes, i never bashed Ketron as much as i did Korg, dont some
of you remember who was the reason of releasing 2.01 for PA in 2 weeks after 2.0???
Yes i know, they would've done so in the future anyways but why in 2 weeks this time?
Or was it probably something else? Or screaming at them directly, not just on public forums,
i mean screaming directly actually at people that ran the project itself...no way in hell i ever
bashed at Ketron but i did hell of a bash at Korg...even though i swear by their name.
James knows what i did, was doing and probably still doing.

MC, Enlighten me please where do you see any hatred for Ketron in here please???

I still dont understand


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#285298 - 04/19/10 02:41 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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My English is very well, but maybe I just don’t understand your metaphors of the Audya and 23 year old virgin and a bad dinner (what ever that means). But what I do understand is that your so called facts are a bit distorted and that I find you’re creditably less than stellar, with all do respect. Maybe you need to look back at some of your past posts to refresh your memory, since you seem to forget that you never “bashed” Ketron and it is all based of facts, but who’s I don’t know.

I also understand that you’re a businessman, but I don’t understand how slandering a company that may employ your services anytime in the future is beneficial to you or your company and how your conduct is viewed by other keyboard companies who drop in from time to time on this forum.
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#285299 - 04/19/10 02:47 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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Well you probably didnt understand my point, your mentioning to my previous posts
is the reason why i gave those examples, refering exactly to my previous posts that
things actually changed or didnt deliver as promised, as my GF which means also
then statements, opinions, facts and beliefs change.
For my Facts being distorted i challenge you then, where are they distorted,
find one single point of the ones given above and i already know the one you will
grab hand on to but you would still not be correct...all the others stay as they are
as of now, as Auda is now. As for Companies and me, to them on the forum or
anywhere i am just a customer like you and in reality i am more on the public
(my customers side) then the companies side, if you understand me.
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#285300 - 04/19/10 02:59 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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So as it seems it was all praises when there was potential employment with Ketron/CMC, which I guess fell through. Now that the love affair has ended that’s when all of the “facts” just arise. I guess I just find your facts a bit tainted knowing the whole picture.

As far a challenge, no need, I really don’t need to discuss this with you any further. I wish you luck with all your endeavors.
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#285301 - 04/19/10 03:08 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
Nedim Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by mc:
So as it seems it was all praises when there was potential employment with Ketron/CMC, which I guess fell through. Now that the love affair has ended that’s when all of the “facts” just arise. I guess I just find your facts a bit tainted knowing the whole picture.

As far a challenge, no need, I really don’t need to discuss this with you any further. I wish you luck with all your endeavors.


So basically you are saying that you dont know nothing about this here, you just got nothing better to do now.
Thats what i can extract from your posts. If you find my facts tainted then say so and where but you know as i
know you will fail to do so, unless you write your own Sampler or FX processor for Audya or something else.
As for the Love Affair this all happens actually after i finished the work givenby/for them. Nothing to do with it.
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#285302 - 04/19/10 03:29 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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I did change my post because using a cooking analogy really didn't say what I was thinking.

You ask MC, "Enlighten me please where do you see any hatred for Ketron in here please???"

Here is a perfect example of degrading Ketron, Audya & Aj.


"It would make difference to few but not to most, to me personally even if OS 15 was
released it is stil the same Amateurish machine lacking many basic things which cant
probably be added by OS, come on, its a 5000$ machine and not even a decent FX processor? Its sad."

"I dont understand the descriptions either, a lot of them are deceitfull, now and before.
Millions of time me and people asked about Style Creator and AJ kept going with:
Now you can mix and edit your styles and save them as user...you can edit the FX
the Audio parts and Midi parts...hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
thats not a Creator helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...................
And the question was Avoided or answered deceitfully...i dont know man...funny,
i gave up on Audya Loooooongggggg ago.


"no arranger has impressed me this much in my life as up to date, NONE.Hey, thats not a statement, thats only my liking and taste but we are way behind with any existing arranger, forget the
internet guessing and rummors, this is not an Arranger, nor competition to PA2X or T3, this is something else, new,
a begining of a new thing in music. "
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#285303 - 04/19/10 04:42 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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You hit nail right on the head, Dan01!
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#285304 - 04/19/10 04:58 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
Nedim Offline
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Staten Island, NYC
And you guys still dont get it right??? Yes i said that and i will repeat I SAID IT!
And now things changed, same as with my GF, should i still praise her? No i wont!
It is funny and stupid bringing one single point out which i dont deny, i repeat i said it
but now things change...and as far as the above post i see nothing disrespectfull to AJ,
Ketron or anyone. If the machine has no Sampler and i said it doesnt have one thats
disrespectfull??? You guys i dont know...god help you, LOLZ! So in reality if something
is missing something i have to say NO IT DOES HAVE just to be nice??? KEEP DREAMING!
Its said that both of you have no single word to correct me on my TINTERED FACTS...ahahahaha.
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#285305 - 04/19/10 05:22 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
DanO1 Offline
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Posted on 04/08/10 by your good friend AJ.

It does have a true full Sampler (which we have kept locked until OS4.0 in order to better develop the GUI).

Prior to OS4.0, only the multi Sampler works (files are already sampled and simply edited, and/or assigned to keys). With 4.0, you can record your won sounds via LINE IN, MIC INPUT ... etc. as the fill Sampler will now be made available (unlocked).

This is possible with AUDYA as of OS3.0 with the MSP (Multi Sampler Editor). The full Sampler is in OS4.0.

* Sample your individual Sounds that make up your drum set (Kick, Snare ...etc) and store as indipendent Wave files in the WAVE folder of the AUDYAs Hard Drive.
* When you have all the files in there, press WAVE, then press EDIT to access the MSP. Here is where you can assign each drum sample to whichever key you want.
* When done, test your kit and then SAVE your new MSP (e.g NecDrm.msp). You can now load this MSP anytime to use with any style. Remember though, it is advisable to follow the GM/GM2 Drum Map so you do not have to remap the kit each time you go to use this kit with an existing Ketron Style.


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#285306 - 04/19/10 06:17 PM Re: Is OS4.0 a good reason to buy an Audya now?
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You still dont prove me wrong, why?
1. I said NOT GOOD i didnt say it doesnt have one at all.
2. It is in OS 4, which people even haven't installed it yet.

Does that prove me wrong? I dont know, you judge it.

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