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#285962 - 04/18/10 02:50 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Bachus Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
Where have I heard THAT before...?

Oh yes... My grandparents about MY generation (and THEIR grandparents about their generation, and so on and so forth ad infinitum ). Stuff been going to hell in a handbasket since time began...


now that sounds familiar...

At a certain age people can't keep up with the continous changing society and then start to behave like this, its only natural.

Just accept that the F... word nowerdays has a whole different meaning and aura then 50 years ago...
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#285963 - 04/18/10 03:14 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Tonewheeldude Offline
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why should everyone accept it just because some think its ok?

I don't try and make people stop using profanities...why should they try and force it on those of us that do not want to use them?

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#285964 - 04/18/10 06:02 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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I was born in 1932.
I NEVER heard (until the last few years)the F word ANYWHERE, except in the Factories.
I never heard my grandfather,father,or son or grandson use the word...to MY generation it has ALWAYS been abhorrent and will remain so until the day I die.
I always turn off immediately any programme when the word is used.
It is the ultimately foulest word I have ever heard..this is how I was taught....BUT..
It is the word itself which makes me so angry.....IF we all were to use the another word, like 'fornication', I guess I could accept that................
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#285965 - 04/18/10 07:06 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by eddiefromrotherham:
I was born in 1932.
I NEVER heard (until the last few years)the F word ANYWHERE, except in the Factories.
I never heard my grandfather,father,or son or grandson use the word...to MY generation it has ALWAYS been abhorrent and will remain so until the day I die.
I always turn off immediately any programme when the word is used.
It is the ultimately foulest word I have ever heard..this is how I was taught....BUT..
It is the word itself which makes me so angry.....IF we all were to use the another word, like 'fornication', I guess I could accept that................


Well, I guess WTF would still apply , although it doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well.

Diki and Bachus are on the mark with their comments. It's funny how language conventions change. The first time, at age 13, I encountered the F-word, officially, that is, and to much giggling in the classroom, was during an English class reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales where it's used a few times.

Regarding the F-version of the song, it was a British comedian, Roy 'Chubby' Brown who came out with it and, I did find it amusing on a trip to the UK to hear a bar band play the song with full, good-natured, audience participation at the appropriate points.

Influence-wise, it may be that today's young crowd probably initially picked it up from Rap artists with their urban street tales told in the language of the streets.

Change is constant, things will change again.

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#285966 - 04/18/10 06:02 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
why should everyone accept it just because some think its ok?

I don't try and make people stop using profanities...why should they try and force it on those of us that do not want to use them?



I agree with you.....I raised my family not to use profanity...and in their adult life..still refrain from it..

Nothing shows a lower class than this common "gutter " language...

Also just because each generation is decaying in morals...doesn't make it right.....lowering class is a sad thing, not anything to be proud of...
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#285967 - 04/18/10 08:19 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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#285968 - 04/18/10 09:57 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Taike Offline
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Yet somehow it's always the younger generation that gets the blame. But let's take a look at what mess the "older" generation got us in. Last time I checked it's still the older generation that runs the show.

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#285969 - 04/19/10 04:36 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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If you clean up your language but still hate the new neighbor without ever having met them, I'd say that 'language' is the least of your problems. After watching some of the actions and listening to some of the language of some of our fellow citizens protesting the passage of the new healthcare bill, the "F" word seems kind of mild by comparison. What's needed in this country, IMO, is a fundamental attitudinal shift. I think that the "moral decay" that you think you are witnessing now, has more to do with how we feel about and treat, our fellow man. The strong negative reaction to the "F" word probably has more to do with this generation's (40-80) general "uptightness" about sex than any concern about the decay of morality. I also suspect that those who refrain from using it and have "taught their families to refrain from using it", still mutter it under their breath under the right circumstances (another driver cut you off----while talking on his cell phone, some drunk spilled a drink on your brand new Audya, wife reminds you that you just forgot their anniversary yet another year , your sixteen-year-old dents the car on his/her very first solo drive after getteing their license, etc.).

What's in a word? What's in your heart, that's the important question.

JMO.

chas

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#285970 - 04/19/10 05:19 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Taike Offline
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Loc: Xingyi, Guizhou (China)
Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
If you clean up your language but still hate the new neighbor without ever having met them, I'd say that 'language' is the least of your problems. After watching some of the actions and listening to some of the language of some of our fellow citizens protesting the passage of the new healthcare bill, the "F" word seems kind of mild by comparison. What's needed in this country, IMO, is a fundamental attitudinal shift. I think that the "moral decay" that you think you are witnessing now, has more to do with how we feel about and treat, our fellow man. The strong negative reaction to the "F" word probably has more to do with this generation's (40-80) general "uptightness" about sex than any concern about the decay of morality. I also suspect that those who refrain from using it and have "taught their families to refrain from using it", still mutter it under their breath under the right circumstances (another driver cut you off----while talking on his cell phone, some drunk spilled a drink on your brand new Audya, wife reminds you that you just forgot their anniversary yet another year , your sixteen-year-old dents the car on his/her very first solo drive after getteing their license, etc.).

What's in a word? What's in your heart, that's the important question.

JMO.

chas

[This message has been edited by cgiles (edited 04-19-2010).]


I wholeheartedly agree, Chas. And... guilty as charged.

Taike

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#285971 - 04/19/10 09:25 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
Nedim Offline
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Staten Island, NYC
Quote:
Originally posted by Impuls:
In Germany there was a great hit once "who the F*** is Alice, he is referring on that.
It is German humor, i think

Impuls


Its one of my favorite songs, first i heard it in 1994 and have it since then.
Right here: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22022081/Div._Kunstnere_-_Alice.mp3

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