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#28620 - 03/21/00 05:28 AM JV1010, Cubase & Timing
Anonymous
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Hi Forum!

I'm expieriencing a strange problem: I have a Roland JV-1010, a Roland
JV-30 and I'm running Cubase 3.7. on a PC. When I'm using the JV-30 everything works
fine, timing is quite good an there are no problems. Switching to the 1010
things change. The timing gets ugly (count in is like "and 2, 3, 4"), some
notes are cut or not played at all especially when the rhythm track passes a
part border. Are there any special MIDI-Messages Cubase sends when there's a
new part? Are these messages known to be a problem for the 1010? I've been
fiddling a lot with the MIDI-Settings (all this latency, system pre-roll,
etc. stuff) but nothing helps with the 1010 and everything is fine with the
JV-30 (except it's sound ;-). Or should I consider a hardware problem and bring
back my (rather new) JV-1010 to the dealer?

Any suggestion, hint or tip would be appreciated

TIA

Ulf.

P.S: For those who read "alt.steinberg.cubase", sorry for crossposting....

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#28621 - 03/26/00 12:47 PM Re: JV1010, Cubase & Timing
putter Offline
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Registered: 03/14/00
Posts: 3
Loc: cottontown tn usa
It finally seems as if someone else has experienced this besides me! I am also having tons of trouble with my 1010 but instead of Cubase I am using Cakewalk 9, which leads me to believe that it is not a software glitch but a hardware one. The first count of each measure will either be deleted or completely out of time unless I am in GM. Particularly aggravating is my Bass & Drum exp. board. To this day I have not recorded a single drum track with this piece that didnt have some kind of timing issue. Does anyone have a solution?

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#28622 - 03/26/00 01:53 PM Re: JV1010, Cubase & Timing
fvicente Offline
Member

Registered: 01/25/99
Posts: 149
Loc: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Hi,

Welcome to the world of the JV-series synths. I own a JV-2080. While I didn't notice the midi timing as I was playing it in the store and listening to the sounds, I did notice it once I got home and began sequencing with it. The timing is quite bad. I like many of the sounds but the timing is driving me up the wall. Unfortunately, I need it to get some work done at the moment and can't afford to buy something else until I sell it. I will be sampling some of the sounds from it over the next few months and then I'll probably sell it. It's too bad.

Oh well, for any recording, I simply record each part to my hard drive one at a time. Time consuming, yes, but the timing is not as bad. I hope that Roland fixed this on the new XV synths (are they really that new? - they simply rehashed pretty much the same thing, gave it some better fx and a few more sounds and that's it). Because of the timing problems on the current JV's, I won't be buying one of the new XV's.

Fernando

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#28623 - 03/26/00 11:17 PM Re: JV1010, Cubase & Timing
Anonymous
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As mentioned on alt.steinberg.cubase, there is one main reason for the timing hassle with the jv-1010: It seems that program changes make the device "think" for while. The solution for this is to reduce them to a minimum (i.e only once at the start of the song). With cubase this can be achieved by switching them of for each part (default behaviour is to send them at the beginning of each part) by selecting the part and then change the program/bank setting to "off".

Hope that helps,

Ulf.

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#28624 - 03/27/00 11:51 AM Re: JV1010, Cubase & Timing
fvicente Offline
Member

Registered: 01/25/99
Posts: 149
Loc: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Hi,

Also, don't forget to disable "Chase" for program changes. If it is enabled, your sequencer will automatically send a program change and any CC messages up to the point where you are starting the song. This, of course, only has an effect when you start the song in the middle somewhere (like if you're overdubbing midi or audio parts).

With my JV-2080, even though I disable these, I find that the timing just is not as tight as it should be. If I compare it to my Trinity or E5000 Ultra, those 2 have a definitely tighter sound to them. Maybe it's the sounds themselves but the JV sounds sloppy in comparison.

HTH,
Fernando

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