Nothing "esoteric" about wanting the tempo to remain as is when changing to a new style. Very common actually, except to those who haven't progressed that far with their instrument...and, I'm pretty sure Roland and Korg, and perhaps Casio can do it as well.

What would be ridiculous, is a person buying the Mediastation, expecting it to do at least the very basic functions of an arranger, and then finding out it does not.

Just because these features are of no use to you, doesn't mean they are unnecessary to others, and since the Mediastation is a bit of a Yeti, the only way to expose these things, is by asking questions...and don't worry, I won't ask you anything.

Ian

Dennis it makes sense to have a dedicated MS forum to chat with other owners, as here is definitly not the place because hardly anyone has a MS to swap ideas with.
So instead all we can do is compare what we hear and listen to to what we already have which is arrangers, Yamaha, Korg, Roland, etc. I hope this time around it works out for you and your music. As time goes on I think with more improvements in technology the MS will be a force to be reckoned with for sure.

good luck

Hi spalding



They did, and the comments even went as far as saying that why has nobody in X amount of year ever been able to upload any thing worth a damn.

I think with the work I've done on the keyboard many people have seen a lot of what they wanted to see and because of that it seems now that the focus has shifted from the questionably abilities of the entire keyboard down to one single function now.

The Arranger.!!!

You got to admit that's some achievement considering how wild these sort of conversations were



I would have covered this though. The styles are recalled instantly. The only thing you can't do is go from one style to the next while Live Arranger is running. It will stop when you select the next style but you can instantly start playing again.

If your going to use something like Bandstand as your vsti, then obviously your going to have to wait for that to load it's sounds before you can start playing again.

This is why I have been saying that to get the most out of the keyboard and to keep everything seamless and super fast it's best that when you buy a premium library you want to use with the keyboard, dump it in exchange for the sound in the GM bank. All this data is preloaded to memory when the keyboard boots so there is zero load times when selecting sounds.

The GM bank is great, but adding your premium content to it is certainly the way to go and blow far pass closed arrangers. Right now as an arranger it's just going to sound like a Tyros 2 with a few enhancments.

Nothing wrong with that either though. The T2 is a good bread and butter machine.



I'm sorry that you don't feel like you are getting to see the key functions that are of direct interest to you, but please understand that I'm not just farting around with the keyboard here in my Studio. I am getting it ready to bring on the road with me as my only keyboard when gigging. Sequencing up my backing tracks takes up all my free time lately.

I should also point out that the video's are being posted on Workstation forums. So while you might not be seeing what you personally want, the vast majority of people are.

Don't forget either, an arranger is nothing without sounds so everything you have seen so far should be of great importance to you.



lol.... is that even possible. Diki is certainly whistling a different tune now and everyone's focus is on the one remaining feature that hasn't been demoed to a level that exceeds closed keyboards.

It's bloody tempting for sure but seriously though, I've only got the demo version of Live Arranger and to spend 170 euro on something I'm not likely to get much use out of is a bit much. Not to mention the time it takes.



Man... talk about putting me under pressure.
I'm not pulling the plug on my efforts and I will see what I can do, but again I don't know how far I'm going to get with a demo version of Live Arranger. All my free time has been spent on sequencing songs for my own use too with a few video's squeezed in here and there. So that's why there's not more video's online right now too.

I'm all for doing what I can but ultimately I'm just an end user. It's not my responsibility to be doing all this.

Regards
James

I won't, as I would not have answered.
Simply because of the malicious intent inherent in most of your questions about anything.

James, when I get my MS back, I will do some work on setting up a style using GIGA souns/VST's.

Also you should not really use the term GM bank , as that just makes unenlightened folk assume " dodgy GM sounds"

They do not realise on the MS the user can CREATE their own GM bank.
All it does is use the GM numbering system..0-127 not the dodgy GM sounds!!

The first ten patch slots can be 10 guitars if you want, followed by 20 basses, and all of these can be a VST OR giga patch.

Then you assign your patches to either the style or the sequence by editing and saving...

If a user wants they can follow the GM patch numbering and naming order in having pianos, EP's, chormatic percusion, organs, guitars, basses etc, which I guess then gives the advantage of ANY GM midi file working on the MS OOTB.
But with killer giga an vst sounds instead.

Anyhoo, I will attempt to get something in a style demo done. Hopefully taking some of the pressure off you

Dennis

Certainly no maliciousness intended in my posts, just curiosity like the others who want to know what the Mediastation can or cannot do as an arranger...this is a "General Arranger Keyboard Forum" is it not?

One thing I have noticed, is an extreme amount of defensiveness and anger in your posts.

So, I'd say you're the one with the problems...

Ian

BTW, the Lointracs forum makes very interesting reading.

fair enough James. Good luck with your MS as a live gigging tool.Do you think you will ever feel that it has made your Oasys redundant ?

Having owned an Oasys, Mediastation, and Wersi I can say first hand the Mediastation does not make the Oasys redundant. The Oasys is a fantastic synthesizer but mediocre workstation. Korg never finished making a great sequencer/recorder for the Oasys so it never quite achieved TOTL workstation status for me. The Oasys sounds, keybed, and real time controls all add to making the synth features top notch though. Sadly Oasys sales were miniscule compared to other Korg products and Korg discontinued the Oasys. I doubt further software will be developed for the Oasys other than sound banks which means it will still never have a proper sequencer/recorder.