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#286723 - 05/03/10 06:21 PM
Re: KORG PA2X Style on MS, Sound Comparison
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14245
Loc: NW Florida
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Sorry, Dennis, but the reason I am so skeptical about the open arranger is BECAUSE of my familiarity with VSTi's and loop production, not through ignorance, which I honestly believe is at the root of so much fanboy gushing here... Yes, it OUGHT to be easy to make great music on an open keyboard, but the fact is, it is not. No more than it is easy to make great music with a computer based VSTi rig. There are issues about sound balance, response, EQ, and the like which don't plague closed keyboard users, because the factory has already done all that work for you. You take a Best Service bass guitar, marry it with a BFD drumkit, add in an Ilio piano, and a Garritan string section, and best of luck getting it all to sound cohesive. They don't record the samples in similar environments, using similar mikes and miking techniques, and just like mixing a pop piece recorded in several different studios, it's often a nightmare to get them all to gel. And, unlike an SMF, a one-off production that you can balance elements together just for that one piece, an arranger presents different challenges, where ALL the parts need to fit together ALL THE TIME... because you never know in advance what you are going to need until you need it... No time on the gig to do that last minute EQ tweak to the floor tom so it doesn't swamp the upright bass, for instance (while it doesn't swamp the picked bass). No, I'm not afraid of new technology, just realistic about how long it would take to hammer it into anything approaching a closed arranger's all round general usefulness. Going by the YEARS that some have had theirs and still not been proud enough of anything to post, I think I am pretty much on the mark. Once again, I point out an arranger is NOT a WS. It isn't a Loopstation/Groove product. It is an ARRANGER. I have no problem with the MS being used as the former. It is what it is best at, after all (and what the designer, bless him, has finally decided it actually IS!). But when the same people that have been unable to produce any music not outright embarrassing in style mode continue to trumpet its' superiority as an arranger (and this isn't the forum to tout it as a WS/Groovebox), I am afraid I HAVE to say 'The Emperor STILL has no clothes'
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#286726 - 05/03/10 06:51 PM
Re: KORG PA2X Style on MS, Sound Comparison
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 1144
Loc: Staten Island, NYC
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Ahahahaha this guy is getting ridiculous with all due respect to him. He IGNORES the fact that me and hundreds of players around the world use Laptop and Controller with an ArranerSoft for a wholle Gig and yes, all setup for the UNEXPECTED things...never had any problems. What a waste of words...lolllllllllzzzzzzzzzz....And i personally use Kontakt and PA Arranger, every sound coming out of Kontakt, everything on the fly and yes, Intros, Endings, Fillins, Program changes and all...in miliseconds...and i've been doing this since 1999 and 2000 with PA80 and the begining of Reaktor, when there was no Kontakt and Giga and Goliath. I dont know if its worth replying to ignorance...he tries to beat the fact that is already out and functioning for ages...all he keeps saying is show some music. I've shown, more then YOU and more then ANYONE on this forum...if you type my name has over Million hits on the net, every single corner is full of MP3s and videos of me, on every one possible site that deals with music and videos on the net...me being good or bad musician it doesnt matter, you are just ignorant...if i dont have music recorded who the hell else on the world has? I am on: YouTube MP3.com MySpace FaceBook BasariStudios.com SZ Forums KorgForums MidiEastForums 5-6 BalkanForums Every possible European, Turkish and Middle Eastern bears my name and a link to my website, every single page i mentioned above contains AT LEAST 150 MP3s of me... what do you really want and need? Life? ...lollllllzzzzzzzzzzz.......... I already know your response to this...should i write it for you? No, I'll wait for you... Yes, You Diki!
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