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#288062 - 06/06/10 07:21 PM Re: OS 4.3...
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Oh! I forgot.... I WANT IT
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#288063 - 06/06/10 07:33 PM Re: OS 4.3...
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Quote:
Originally posted by vagro:
Oh! I forgot.... I WANT IT


+1

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#288064 - 06/06/10 07:46 PM Re: OS 4.3...
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
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Originally posted by Irishacts:
+1


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#288065 - 06/06/10 09:56 PM Re: OS 4.3...
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally posted by vagro:
Dom I want them. I already have most of those T2 samples in my Psr s900 but I want them in my MsS too. And I'm also very interested in the Audya and FanoG Giga.


Quote:
Originally posted by vagro:
Oh! I forgot.... I WANT IT


+1

Even tough i don't have a lionstracs (yet) i am interested in those giga samples to use with my live-styler setup.

(Tough i can understand if you restrict this offer to Lionstracs owners only)
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#288066 - 06/06/10 09:59 PM Re: OS 4.3...
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Bachus, if the 'open' community wants a sampled Rhodes, go out and sample a Rhodes...

If you can't see the difference between that and sampling someone who already did all the WORK for you,
you aren't even trying.

There are people that thought that ALL music should be free, that no-one should EVER have to buy a CD again.
They traded mp3's around like bubblegum cards. Now the music industry is in collapse. If you can't get PAID
for your work, who is going to do it? Those people are now
being sued for copyright infringement. And if wholesale sampling of an entire arrangers' soundset
ever becomes more than a pipedream, and it becomes more than just a joke to the big boys,
you are going to see the lawyers come calling like they do to
big MP3 distributors and movie servers.

It's simple... do the sampling YOURSELF, no problem. Sample something that someone has ALREADY sampled
(or simply copy the data) and you are stealing their work. It can't be any more obvious than that...
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#288067 - 06/06/10 11:30 PM Re: OS 4.3...
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
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Whether you sample the original instrument or sample someone’s samples, the effect is the same.
In both situations, you are causing some one to lose money.

You can not say one is OK an not the other.

If you want the Rhodes sound, buy a Rhodes

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#288068 - 06/06/10 11:48 PM Re: OS 4.3...
miden Offline
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Originally posted by to the genesys:
Whether you sample the original instrument or sample someone’s samples, the effect is the same.
In both situations, you are causing some one to lose money.

You can not say one is OK an not the other.

If you want the Rhodes sound, buy a Rhodes

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And not a Motif ES, XS or a Kurzweil PC1SE, or any of the Rolands or , or , or

Yet another ridiculous statement on this ridiculous debate.

So you would agree that every sax sampler should pay a royalty to Adolph Saxs' descendants? And every one should also pay a royalty to Leo Fender and Harry Rhodes descendants too?
And the same for those Stradivarius samples?

It would be like trying to copyright air...We certainly did not create it, but we all use it for free...

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#288069 - 06/07/10 12:04 AM Re: OS 4.3...
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
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“It would be like trying to copyright air...We certainly did not create it, but we all use it for free...”


And that statement demonstrates what the argument is not.

Yes we can not copyright air because we did not do any thing to create it.


However, a lot of work and time and money were put in to creating a Rhodes, sax and so on.
That is the point Diki is making.
The effect of having these sounds on a keyboard is that less people would buy the actual
instrument.

There is a counter point to my point but I am surprised no one has mentioned it as yet.


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#288070 - 06/07/10 12:25 AM Re: OS 4.3...
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Registered: 01/31/06
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With respect TTG, that is NOT the point Diki is trying to flog here.

In essence, he is saying that if James makes his OWN samples he is not able to sell them or give them away, because he sampled a soundwave.

Where the soundwave came from, is beside the point.

I DO agree that if, say, I bought James' samples, and then gave THEM away, THAT is where the copyright would be breached.

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#288071 - 06/07/10 12:26 AM Re: OS 4.3...
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And I will add, that is not something I would EVER do to anyone. Be it sampled libraries, or songs.

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