Tahnkx aswell, Arvon45 so, u r recommend Trition Rack, right? yes! I 'll wait and see this super synth! since u own both Trition and 3080, I was wondering how do u use them in terms of sounds? I know Trition is more "electric" "techno", and 3080 has good rhodes , strings.... anything else? just looking for some professional opinion : )
[This message has been edited by YMH (edited 07-24-2000).]
Arvon- in terms of strict S&S synthesis, the Roland is more powerful (better filters IMHO and many more ways to configure the oscillators using different structures). You must also remember that the Triton's polyphony is halved with a 2 oscillator program bringing it down to 31 voices (unlike Kurzweils which stay the same even with 3 oscillators- that's true polyphony IMHO). The XV's polyphony is cut down to 32 notes with 4 oscillator patches. But I do believe that Korg can be fatter sounds that Roland with just 2 oscillators (that's just IMHO of course!).
With regards to the above post- both these synthes (Triton and XV3080) have their own 'sound'. To me, the Triton also has fantastic EP sounds even the factory ones (just as good as XV's but different!). Strings- Korgs are more realistic and sharper but Roland's are warmer. Both do awesome pads, basses and leads. Electric Guitars- Triton definetly (the best EG sounds of any S&S synthe IMHO) Acoustic Guitars- Roland XV (but Korg's not far behind). Drums- the Triton is much better at the dance/contemporary sounds but the Roland definetly wins out with it's acoustic sounds. Of course I'm basing my observations from what is supplied from the factory.
Both synthes sound awesome and I'd be content with just the Triton and XV3080 (which I own both) at a pinch if I had to sell all my other gear! Cheers.
BUt I was saying that by adding the MOSS card, the Triton EASILY surpasses the programming power of the 3080. And remember, the Tritons effects are so deep and versatile its like another aspect of the synth programming.
I just dont know, basicly if you program a string from "standard" settings, you just seem to have a cold sound. Panning is an issue to me, I feel that it lacks some "per oscilator" functions like panning. (or maybe I just don't see it). It's powerful yes but warmer than the jp8080.. Not in my opinion anyway. Now the virus has a bit of both (+ own sound ofcoruse).
Arvon45- Good point re- MOSS board and fx! Yes the Triton can function as a full bore powerful 2 in 6 out multi-fx unit (with great sounding reverbs etc). The XV's have not got this capability which really is a shame because they have some great fx IMHO.
Cosmic- I also think that the MOSS/Z1 sound is warmer than the JP's. Don't get me wrong- I like the JP sound alot but the MOSS synthe engine is about 100 times 'deeper' than that of the JP8000/8080. That's not to say the the JP's are not good synthes- I'd love a JP8080 if I had the space and cash!!!!
Yes the Access Virus is a very flexible analogue modelling synthe and so are the Novation Supernova/Nova series. However, to be honest, I think that the Z1 or MOSS board contains the most powerful (non sample based) synthe system that we've seen in the last 20 years! That's just IMHO of course- not only powerful analogue and great digital FM sounds but awesome acoustic modelled EP's organs, guitars, basses, brass, woodwinds and clavs.
Yes ofcourse, I agree to you on the guitar/sax/brass emulation thingy, You can really make pursuasive sounds like that.
What I was trying to tell is that it needs alot more adding of effects if you want to make a trance sound. Making trance sounds on a JP8080 and virus give a warmer sound as a first result. Ofcourse it's possible with the mossboard to make warmer sounds but , .. or I dont know anything about synth programming, or it's just that you have to add insert fxs to make the sound wider.
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