Hi,

As I red your post you all
do not belive that Roland is
capable to realase the new sampler
ans synths.

Please know that the Roland
had between S-760 digital
sampler and the new sampler which shall
be introduced this winter also
some test models including SV-7700
and others which were extensively
used by chief engineer at Roland
sound development by Eric Persing at
sampling and procesing including
the well known saga of sampling
Distorted Reality 2 and other sampling
CD roms of his company
Spectrasonic.
Please know that such machines
could made todays machines
quite obsolete and they could
not be compared with todays conventional
units.
And what is even more interesting
is that the Roland machines which shall be
introduced this winter shall changed
our musical lives forever.

As you all probably allready know
this is the era of VM series Roland
machines which has one unique feature
in common and that is that all machines
are modular.

But not in the way of todays fashion
modulatriations but in the way of realy
usability.

For example all machines have in common
RMDB II connectiors Each RMDB II jack provides 8-in/8-out 24-bit digital audio I/O, yielding 24-in/24-out audio with
a single expansion board.

So you can hook to your new sampler or synth
aditional outputs or inputs all in 24 bit domain.

You can connect via this jacks all
such machines in one real studio
setup which was before imaginable
only in your imagination or some sort
of vituality which is promissed
by a lot of todays companys. Some
of theme were not even able to do
decent controller for such setups
and their sound is nothing revolutionary.

So where ADAT started now RMDB ended.

And Roland listed all new names under
top secret so we could only speculate
what such machines could be named.
Even the guys who develop such machines
sees just blue metal nad nothing more.

And as you all now probably know
the total evolution of the new
machines was necesary to make
history once more as so many times before.
So this hard work took Roland time
to develop machines which are in their
own class and could not compete with
common machines anymore.

As great producers know the Roland
has its own sound, be it JV or JP or
some other machine.
And JP made history as it made also
JV and others.


And I as producer and tester could
say that only Korg Z1 came close
to these machines.

And if someone need superb sound
then there is nothing to beat Roland.
Just play with one JP and you shall
in hours find so many sound opurtunities
that there is nothing else to come close.
And everything is on the tips of
your fingers. But this is allready
history.

Did any one tried to program synth
capabilities of JV and XP synths.
Probably not a lot of people
( I do not mean jut to change waves, but
to play with structures and etc..) .
Because you could easily find out that
this machines are even more powerfull
that JD synths which all started
such saga and looked so amazing
brutal.

You shall be all surprised what you
shall see this winter from Roland.

And you can shall be gratefull to
Roland that they did not release
SV-7700 and other machines at that time
because the new machines shall
make the line between ordinary
machines and Roland so more
obvious.

Best sampling and composing with Roland,

Gorazd.

Gorazd,
I don't think anyone really disbelieves that Roland will introduce something different at NAMM, all manufacturers that are moving forward will be strutting their stuff there. However, I don't think they believe you. I'm not flaming you here but they (other posts) do make a good point. First you say: "There shall be also rack vesrion called JV-1000..." Then you turn around and say: "And Roland listed all new names under top secret so we could only speculate what such machines could be named." See what I mean?
At the Winter NAMM Roland HAS to do something because, at present, they simply cannot compete with manufacturers such as Korg and Kurzweil and Yamaha. The groove thing did not take off the way Roland anticipated and the JP didn't make a very strong showing against truly powerful machines from Nord, Waldorf, and Doepfer. In fact, judging from what I've read, most prefer a Prophecy, CS or ANX over the JP. Again, no offense intended but you have made some contradicting statements and have made comments that are unsupported by fact.

First of all, learn to speak English.

No one believes you. How can you know
about these knew "super" Roland synths when you can't even manage simple use of the English language?

The JP is also inferior to the Z1. Anyone worth their salt knows this.

Arvon,

Some people on this BBS may have other primary languages than english, and I don't think you should automatically laugh at them.

People may know something or have knowledge, even if they don't speak english too good. Try to listen to what they have to say!

As you (perhaps) know, english is not the only language on this planet.

Og vi kan glatt ta denne diskusjonen over i et eller annet eksotisk språk, hvis det blir lettere slik.

Got it?

Stig F

Arvon45: Relax, dude. You wrote:

>>First of all, learn to speak English.<<

See stigf's previous post. Vorsicht, man weiss nie, wer da 'reinguckt.

>> How can you know about these knew "super" Roland synths when you can't even manage simple use of the English language?<<

Ouch! "Knew super Roland synths"? Don't you mean, "new super Roland synths"?

Ouch! Now who needs to brush up on "simple use of the English language"?

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"Anyone worth his or her salt"?

Gorazd's post may be bogus (these vaporware posts appear every year), but relax about the language thing. This is a music forum, and these wild, unsubstantiated speculations are part of the charm of this goofy business. Go ahead a be goofy with the rest of us.

I may be mistaken, but I thought Roland were a Japanese company - presumably a large number of their R&D staff would therefore be Japanese and wouldn't have english as a first language?

Addendum: I'm not implying that Gorazd is a Roland employee, but if he/she or anyone else 'close' to Roland were to start leaking details then it is quite likely english would be a second language....

[This message has been edited by pstares (edited 01-05-2000).]

YOu are all right. Sorry, I was being a bit cruel. Maybe it was the crunch of the holidays.

Hello, I am samurai in Tokyo.

I can speak English a little, but I post here because I listened to the good news in Japan (here is the main factories of Roland and new products release first in the world).
The news is: Roland Japan has stopped making JV-2080 and groove sampler since December 1999. And this suggests that Roland will release new alternative synthesizers soon = NAMM Show in Los Angels is to hold on the next February).
We (Japanese synth users) are waiting for new Roland's synthesizers and samlers with R-BUS or 24bit D/A Converter.

Isn't this new Roland R Bus system another form of the ADAT verses TDIF argument- ie- another manufacturers method of transferring 8 tracks of up to 24 bit audio down a single line?

I will be interested to see what Roland come up with next with regards to synthes. To be honest, they haven't done that much over the last 7 or so years with their synthes- this is not necessarily a bad thing- it must be good if they are able to continually rehash new products using technology from the early 90's!!!!???? Cheers.

Talk about repackage products!!! Korg is the KING!!!! At least Roland "rehashes" a product that is worth rehashing...No offense intended, just stating facts...

Fran-
I think all synthe manufacturers have been guilty of this throughout the 90's. Yes Korg have rehashed their products but so have Roland in the same way. Your opinion regarding Korg and Roland is taken but I own a fair bit of gear from both companies and can honestly say that each has it's own sound.

If I was trapped on a desert Island I would take a Korg Triton (fully loaded) with a Roland JV2080 (fully loaded) as my only 2 sound sources.

Of course I would need heaps of storage media, a couple of decent mics and monitoring etc- but this could be a whole seperate topic. Cheers.