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#291208 - 08/17/10 06:35 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
moldmaker Offline
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Registered: 04/09/03
Posts: 110
Loc: Illinois
I would have to agree with the folks who would like to see an arranger module from Yamaha.
Wally

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#291209 - 08/17/10 06:56 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 736
Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
- more robust and useful Music Finder. As mentioned, look to Korg for how well it should be done.

- more assignable options to the sliders and the wheels. Everytthing should be assignable.

- a couple or 4 assignable buttons for you to customize per your choice

- map the tempo increase/decrease to the pedal. a way to more easily and smoothly vary the tempo during a song would go a long way in reducing the mechanical feel

- fix the sliders so they do not "jump" in and out when you first move them. makes using them frustrating and can produce huge unexpected variations in track volumes.

- increase user memory A LOT. Or ditch it all together if it isn't needed. It's just another tab to pass by when pushing buttons

- allow HD and or USB drive to be the first tab that is displayed when going to voices/files, etc. Always having to tab past internal, user, HD to get to USB takes too long.

- finally, get rid of all the menu choice buttons along the bottom of the screen and return to allowing all those be page buttons only. On some menus, you see only 2 or 3 pages and have to continually hit next over and over to get to a given page. All 8 buttons at the bottom of the screen should go to pages 1-8, 8-16, etc.

- put the on/off switch back on top

- please do something better than the existing speakers. they suck

Tom G.
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#291210 - 08/17/10 07:41 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 736
Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
And three more...

- PLEASE alphabetize the styles on all the style categories. The current random order is a pain when sifting through 5 or 6 pages of styles

- desperately need a SEARCH feature to quickly find styles, songs, etc

- allow all OTS to be customized and saved to the built in styles. change the deal of having to create copies of styles to do this

Tom G.
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#291211 - 08/17/10 08:49 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
I know you said it's not about the sounds but still ...

Please mention that we need more realistic drums. It doesn't need to be live drums like the Audya, but it is essential to have something better than what we have now.

This ONE change, will change the entire sound of the keyboard since everything on an arranger uses drums...

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#291212 - 08/17/10 10:55 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
2 more things:

- We absolutely need WAY more than 3MB of USER RAM since loading custom styles off a USB or HD takes too long on the fly. I believe the Korg has 20MB, but why stop there?

- Copy Korg's guitar strumming feature. It is extremely realistic.

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#291213 - 08/18/10 08:51 AM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
George carries some serious weight in that Yamaha actually listens to him very attentively and hopefully Yamaha will then implement and add some of the features and functions we're discussing here. Thanks George!

Okay, since Yammie seems determined to keep their Top of the Line arranger at a measly "61" keys an arranger module would be the next logical step. Here's to hoping. A 76 key totl arranger "keyboard" would be my preference from Yamaha though.

#2: Make the outer casing "metal" (aluminum, etc.) yet keep the overall weight within acceptable limits e.g. no more than 36 lbs. if possible. If Roland can make a full featured 76 key workstation i.e. the Fantom X weighing 32 lbs and the Fantom G at 36 1/2 lbs Yamaha should be able to keep their next (metal casing) totl arranger in that ballpark weight range too. Especially if it's only "61" keys right?

#3: Quit marketing your totl arrangers to oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia! 99 percent of Planet Earth's population AREN'T rich so puhleeezzzeee quit charging an arm and leg for your totl arranger line! Is that too much to ask?? >> Crickets chirping... as Yamaha will most likely turn a deaf ear to that one. Oh well, I tried.

#4: "Nine" sliders (instead of eight) to function as B3 organ draw bars when needed.

#5: a top notch Vocalizer in conjunction with an XLR Mic input.

#6: More system memory e.g. between 30-70MB or more if possible.

#7: "2" (or more) Gigabytes of Flash RAM like was just given to the new Motif XF.

#8: USB "3.0" would be fantastic too and well worth it for our recording needs plus transferring of files. USB 3.0 is here to stay and is a HUGE increase in speed over USB 2.0 which is basically obsolete.

#9: More Wav Rom would be nice. 1GB of Wav Rom would excel the new Motif XF Wav Rom but Yamaha has done that before with their totl Arranger offering. To at least 'match' the Motif XF wav rom, if they won't exceed it, would be okay too.

#10: Quit marketing your totl arrangers to oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia! Oh, I already mentioned that didn't I?

All the best,
Mike
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#291214 - 08/18/10 09:15 AM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
btweengigs Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 2204
Loc: Florida, USA
George..
How did the meeting go?
Eddie

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#291215 - 08/18/10 12:08 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
Impuls Offline
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Registered: 02/24/02
Posts: 615
Loc: Netherlands
Flash memory, 128 Mb user Memory,audio synchronization with wave/Mp3 files,touch screen,better drums,editable home page (like technics did in the past),appregiator from the XF synth,easy to edit and to make custom style.s (see old Technics),Hdmi output, faster system processor, Digital output Spdif (5.1 surround editable panning ,positioning)
SD card slot,XLR output/input,better vocalist,
Leslie effect with "stop"function and editable.

Just a few ideas for T4/T5

Impuls/Soryt
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#291216 - 08/18/10 05:31 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
George, if I'm not too late, I'd like to reiterate the idea of a dedicated prprietary plug-in arranger module and different keybeds, 61,76,88. Ability to add or subtract features with a different level module, etc.
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#291217 - 08/18/10 05:49 PM Re: Meeting With Yamaha Marketing Folks
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Yamaha must be getting some laugh out of reading all these things people want
The T4 is already designed ...any of these request "if at all" implemented would be a few years away anyway.

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