http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_oY33r5cAo&feature=player_embedded#!

Nedim,

that's a toy compared to vArranger

I agree

Are you guys OK??? How can you compare VRanger and this? This is a 3000$ Machine it can only
be compared to MediaStation and Nothing else, it is an OPEN SYSTEM machine, it is not an
arranger software...hahahaha, this place became SAD.
What the hell is VRanger? Damn, halloooooo it is a software and NOTHING else, this is not it.

LOLZ

Hallo...i thought there was smarter people in here, this is not a Software, stop comparing
it to Live Styler and vArranger. I know of those
too probably longer...

Nedim
Do you any more info on this?



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Yes Phil, this is already in existence for years, it was/is made in Germany, now they
have new models. It was intended at the time for Balkan use but things changed since then
changed. It is the ONLY competitor to MediaStation but in a different way, it is not a synth
it is a computer which also comes with TouchScreen small Monitor that you put on top of your
controller. It is not like OpenLabs, it is a truly integrated and Open System machines,
works on Windows but not regular Windows, it is a different Music Work version. It can work
and install every plugin and ws available for for Pc. Many people have it, in the hundreds
and i know a lot of them also personally, the big three cant compete with this. When bought
you get a Sound Library GM compatible and after that you expand. They come in few different
models, configurations and prices. I think its based on a custom Made Live Styler but i am
not sure yet. The inventor is a guy who is one of Yamaha's engineers. I dont own one and not
planing to since i dont need one, i just built my own Studio Machine from scratch but still,
this is not something to laugh at, it is something very serious and maybe more serious then
the MS itself, it is not Linux based or locked into some configurations, it is something you
can do anything but Musically, not PC wise like Open Labs...as we always say now, the future.

Hi Nedim
Live Styler is the Arranger software they have loaded on-board to control the rest of it.
The Windows OS will just be set up to provide optimum performance with the software/hardware on-board, (Just like Wersi do) and not a special version of it.

Bill

Hi Bil, sorry, i missunderstood your post. I knew it was LiveStyler before but now i wasnt
sure...and the OS, yes it Windows but not like a regular Windows and the ones with have problems
with, it is a tweaked OS and thats how it comes with, no need for tweaking.

In here you can see few pix of the units itself: http://www.yumidi.com/forum/agaton-alpha-ass-aranzer-prve-slike-t15793.html

Maybe it's just me and I have the sense of humour of a kid, but the name “ASS” makes me giggle big time.

What a stupid freaking name for a potentially very cool product.

James

ASS = Advanced Sampling Station

The coolest thing about these machines is the preconfigured complex midi routing, as well as the overall system stability. As far as the hardware is concerned, it is top of the line ( Asus MB's, Intel quad core CPU's, Noctua Quiet fans etc.). In addition to that, the systems are also available with SSD hard-drives for live use.

Lots of possibilities with these machines that are made for LIVE use.

I dont think anything beats this, even though i am a fan of MS and i am getting one i am still
sceptic that the MS is more capable of this, this is more promising...
As for the name James...lol...

lol....explaining it doesn't help.

I don't think I get even the slightest idea of what this piece of “ASS” can do from that video.

Personally, I think they made a complete ASS out of it by playing midi files that totally sucked ASS.

I mean, if they wanted to really show their ASS off, they could have used better material as this rather sucked ASS.

I mean, just ASS your self, what's so good about the fact that it's a PC with a Touch Screen. I mean, I'm not trying to be an ASS here and knock this piece of ASS, and I don't wish to make an ASS of myself talking about a product that no details have been given on yet, but this ASS is only a PC and no other version of Windows exists legally. So this ASS is not running some unique version of Windows.

Regards
James.

lol... Sorry but they seriously need to change the name. It's bloody stupid.

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 08-28-2010).]

Well..just a youtube video that scroll some PC screen shots, some PC cases, with backtracking some Mp3.. do not prove nothing that this system work...
On this video, on 4:30 start to shown one APPLE/MAC sreen shoot..what have to do with the windows system?

After reading the end story from Wersi..OpenLabs..I really believe now that under Windows is not possible produce musical instrumets for Live stage.

James also posted this interesting link: http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/why-i-quit-open-labs/
Just another probe to never buy a windows system..

Please Nedim, do not compare the LiveStyler features with the all MS OS features.
Need another 5-10 years untill someone arrival with our same features.
If i'm wrong, just le me see some TRUE working ( videos not screen shoots) that can compete with the MS features.

[This message has been edited by LIONSTRACS (edited 08-28-2010).]

Hi Lionstracs
1. Wersi instruments have been and still are used live from small gigs to large Concert Halls, so the idea that Windows cannot be used live is a COMPLETE and TOTAL NONSENSE.
2. Virtually all the 3rd party instruments loaded into the Mediastaion have to run through WINE (A Windows emulator) to work. (If Windows didn’t work for Music, I can assure you that manufactures wouldn’t write programs for it, plus virtually every VST launched or updated in the last 5 years has been designed for live play on a Windows PC)
3. Promote the advantages of what you have, (Which is an excellent and versatile keyboard) and stop slagging other instruments and OS off. (It’s not needed, as the Mediastation/Groove can stand on its own 2 feet, and you will only alienate prospective customers, if you continue to constantly deride others)
Regards

Bill

Abacus you are wrong about wine,

it is not A Windows emulator

The name Wine is a acronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29



[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 08-28-2010).]

and Nedim is there a Style Sequencer like Qranger on those machines?

Giga sampler?

and.......................

and wait until you have seen MS

[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 08-28-2010).]

Ok, lets drop this, this is not about proving or not, its not about existing or not, its something
i know for a while, probably longer then MediaStation...few of you here know too, it is not
a new subject, this was brought to attention a while ago.

No there isn't...it has better, you choose what you need...Cubase and Kontakt,
Sonar and Emulator X3...i will blow anyones mind with it...forget QRanger compared
to Cubase...i am not putting MS down, its still the leader but please do not compare
QRanger and Cubase or Giga and Emulator...you and Domenico (which i have a lot of
respect for and is my friend) are a lot smarter then that.

Nedim you certainly can not compare Qranger with Cubase or Sonar or.......... we know that,

but i mean a style player and editor like Qranger for audio+midi styles and with other realtime options like Qranger....

Moreover, each mashine is unique to the work which is intended to do....


pity that Linux is still unknown world for most PC users, worldwide.

because it has much to offer to end users, especially for musicians.

[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 08-28-2010).]

Dont excite your self bro, it has NOTHING to offer, you can not compare it to Win or Mac,
even though Dom did a great Job, if Dom based the whole thing on Mac or Win it would blow
everything out that exist now keeping in mind what he achieved only with Linux.
We cannot put Windows down, i challenge you with all existing MSs manufactured to go head to head with my new I7 system that i just built, based on Win, x64...lets be realistic a little. A well configured PC can kill anything that exist out there.
And comparing Giga to Kontakt 4 or Eamulator X3 is really laughable.