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#292141 - 09/03/10 04:02 PM Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Ocala, FL USA
I love this sound and capability....
Listen to it all the way through....
I'm setting here thinking..how do I get an arranger setup to be able to do this and sound like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16oaGSltUPE&feature=related

Amny ideas?

Thanks,
Lee S.
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#292142 - 09/03/10 04:18 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
Get two keyboards, a set of pedals, a MIDI processor to allow more complex setups that arrangers typically allow, then practice night and day for, let's say twenty years or so to be able to play that well...

Simple enough, really (except for maybe that last part!)
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#292143 - 09/03/10 04:44 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
leeboy Offline
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Well, maybe...I have 2 keyboards and a pedal board and a PC with lots of MIDI pgms...but I don't think the voicing and sound that is there is on any of our arrangers. I have done some work with that stup and some things are OK...but not that sound. The Stagea uses FM2, AWM2 and voice modeling..no SA or SA2 of course.
Sounds pretty good to me! it's 2004 technology.But you talk about an instrument BORN to play live!!!!

Oh, I think I want to marry her too!

Lee S.
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#292144 - 09/03/10 06:24 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
There are a handful of incredible Yamaha style files that are set up just for movie songs. If anyone wants to try them out, let me know and I'll be more than happy to send them to you via Email. Sorry guys and gals, they'll only play on Yamaha boards.

Cheers,

Gary
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#292145 - 09/03/10 06:32 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
It's possible to do the same with a Tyros2/3 or even an S910 if you have a lower keyboard, like a Yamaha NP-30 and a decent set of MIDI pedals (at least more than an octave).

I grew up playing Electones (last one was an HX-1), but I prefer having the single keyboard...auto-accompaniment bass lines are so much better than years ago, and you can program your own.

The player featured has obviously spent a lot of time on the instrument.

Ian
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#292146 - 09/03/10 06:33 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
There exists a professional quality MIDI file with the exact arrangement heard in the video. We are talking early 90's Roland in-house league.

Maybe she is using it to do the patch changes for her?

It is this probably, play it on a GS or GM/GM2 compatible thing....

http://www.angelfire.com/ak/skatermidi/images/fox.mid

[This message has been edited by trident (edited 09-03-2010).]

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#292147 - 09/03/10 08:36 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
The patch changes are done with foot switch. The Stagea has two on one the left and one on the right of the expresssion pedals..totally programmable for lots of functions. And there is a programmable knee lever as well.

I think this instrument is in a different league to any aranger with one 61 note kbd. If you have a decent set of speakers on your PC...listen again to the orchetrial instuments come alive. This is only 2004 technology...can you imagine what they could do now with Sa & SA2 technology included in this same package. She is very talented, and that instrument is very capable.

I guess the sound really gets to me...it is so clear, distinct and you can hear the quality...did you hear that French Horn come alive? And everything. I get a feeling the sound designers spend more $$ and time to do the sampling & programming.

She is using pre-programmed series of reigistration changes triggered by foot switch or knee lever. This we of curse can do on our arrangers.

This keyboard even has horzontal touch...meaning you wiggle your fingers sideways for effects as well as aftertouch which we all know about.

There ae many more performances by her and others on you-tube on the Stagea. (Wersi Abacus Duo deluxe also)

I don't think the organ as we see it here is an old peoples toy as the MFG's thought everyoe felt was the case when they killed the importing of such neat instruments in the US & elsewhere. It still fly's in Japan and other countries. They take their music pretty seriuosly in Japan. Different country, diferent interest and society. Lack of Mfg promotion here?

Ian...I don't think so...but, if someone would come up with something even close to this...I would be impressed. If you listen to Martin demo the T3...he's pretty good and it's one hell of an instrument...but nothing like this...not even close.

I sure would like to find someone here in US to visit that has one...to really check it out. Wander if Steve Deming knows anyone?

Lee S.
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#292148 - 09/03/10 09:05 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
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#292149 - 09/03/10 09:05 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
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#292150 - 09/03/10 09:29 PM Re: Don't try ths on your arranger...no..please do.
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Lee,

I play the arranger differently than I did the organ.

I play in a smaller arrangement style, instead of imitating a big orchestra, so the single keyboard is perfect for my needs and the way I like to play.

Also, I have to think of portability and keeping the weight down to 25 lbs is important to me.

For home use, the Stagea would be nice. I play on a friend's D-85 triple manual Electone quite often, and it's lots of fun.

Ian
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