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#292608 - 09/10/10 01:49 PM Re: Style quallity...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:

Wise up, guys... THAT is what 'live' music sounds like!



Yep, and that's why most "live" music doesn't sell well.

If you hear a well put together group, Mr. Drummer doesn't be so loud as to drown out Mr. Guitar, and Mr. Piano...but that's how Audya sees it.

They may go the same way as those poorly put together "live" bands, and be replaced with someone with a Tyros, Roland or Korg, or perhaps, more likely, a DJ.

I make it a point to go hear live bands, and the good ones are balanced and are neither top or bottom heavy (unless the sound man is stoned/drunk/deaf, or all three.

There are those who like dominant bass and drums...they can buy the Audya, and go to hear bass and drums dominated bands...the rest of us kinda like a more balanced approach to both.

Ian
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#292609 - 09/10/10 01:54 PM Re: Style quallity...
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
of course my opinion is

AUDYA Hands Down...
really no comparison,
forget the bass being loud, ye, so? it can be easily lowered.
but the drums, overall sound, WAY BETTER

Ian, Dnj, you guys should form a duo with your Yammies


Leezone,

I have to agree with you the Audya is way ahead and I'm deaf. Found anymore BUUUUUUUUUGS yet!
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#292610 - 09/10/10 01:59 PM Re: Style quallity...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Leezone,

I have to agree with you the Audya is way ahead and I'm deaf. Found anymore BUUUUUUUUUGS yet!



Tony...you must be the possessor of an Audya.

Great comment...I'd reply the same if I was stuck with...er...owned one.

Ian

{Just kidding Old Bean)
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#292611 - 09/10/10 02:01 PM Re: Style quallity...
casaet Offline
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Registered: 07/27/10
Posts: 36
Loc: Norway
It seems one is overlooking an important point here. These styles are not supposed to be contemporary rock styles, or eighties styles or whatever. It is supposed to be late fifties and early sixties styles. So the drum sounds and mix on Audya and Tyros are authentic. The Korg has a very modern snare sound. The Roland an eighties sound, and Wersi, the wrong bass drum sound, too loud in the mix, just to pick on some details.
I think I should mention that the Tyros player is the one that really masters this old style. One of the best I ever heard.
Concerning sound quality, the sound in the fifties was not awesomely good either, but we manages to get the message.
casaet

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#292612 - 09/10/10 02:56 PM Re: Style quallity...
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2206
Loc: Louisiana, USA
It's no secret I am an Audya fan but the bass on that Audya demo, first song anyway, seems too loud.
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#292613 - 09/10/10 03:18 PM Re: Style quallity...
Falberto347 Offline
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 18
Loc: Perth Amboy, New Jersey, USA
AUDYA Hands down!!

(Oh! Happy Yamaha PSR S900 and Korg PA800 ownwer/player).

Thank you,

FA

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#292614 - 09/10/10 03:22 PM Re: Style quallity...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
Live music seems to sell quite well at LIVE venues!

If you WANT to sound like a CD on a gig, go ahead and knock yourselves out... but if you want to sound like a live band (like all the artists from CD's do when they go out and play live ) don't choke the life out of the drummer. When you are trying to make asses move (rather than trying not to offend some diners in a restaurant), that drummer is the best friend you've got!

Honestly, guys... go back and listen to MOST arranger user demos. All you can hear is the RH solo, and some vague ticky noise in the background one can only assume MIGHT be a drummer... who knows?! Drowning out the guitarist might not be the worst thing you can do to a style - but drowning out the drummer certainly IS
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#292615 - 09/10/10 06:41 PM Re: Style quallity...
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 1155
Got to agree with Diki on this one.
To me, the point of an arranger is to sound like a live band and not a CD recording.
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#292616 - 09/10/10 07:25 PM Re: Style quallity...
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
I don't care for most 'Live' bands of today.
All Bass & Drums, and my god...those screeming distortion guitars drown everything out.
The poor keyboad pl;ayer may as well just turn off the power and act like he is playing.

Listen to the Bee Gees if you like balance, and want to hear the keboard player too(Superb Kurzweils).

Oh, I forgot to say...IMHO, one reason they do all that with the band is because the singers SUCK CANAL WATER!
It's all show...and very little quality music.

Lee S.
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#292617 - 09/10/10 08:23 PM Re: Style quallity...
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
The last live group I saw had the drummer inside a Lexan enclosure, which I can only guess that was so he didn't drown out the sax player, guitar player, keyboard guy and fiddle player.

After listening to the recordings, IMO they were crap. I would never have bother to post them--they were that bad.

Now, having heard Don Mason playing his Audya, and playing it myself for a few songs, it's a neat keyboard and Don really makes it sound great. Of course, Don can make any keyboard sound great.

OK Diki. Where's the link to that damned kazoo player?

Gary
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