Yes perhaps it does, but any decent "live" band is going to have balance.

Hearing the Audya demos just exposes the poor mix...fix the mix, and perhaps it might sound a little more like a "good" recording of a band...as of now, it sounds like a recorded band with a drummer for a soundman.

Duos using an arranger, including your own, do not sound like a "live" band...nobody's being fooled, Diki...get a live drummer and bass player...then you'll sound "live"...not until.

Otherwise you sound just like every other arranger based single or duo.

Ian

One is talking about music and the other about keyboards. Not quite the same in my book. Yet, it should be about music and not keyboards. JMHO

Taike



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But none of them, including the Audya, actually do sound like a "live" band...they sound like a recording of a band (and in Audya's case, a poorly mixed recording)...they are still playing samples, which are recordings of instruments.

So, you are essentially playing a recording.

Ian

Ian,
Yes as you say a decent live band...but decent to me and I think maybe you too...is NOT what some of todays bands are about.

Balence are you kidding...go play some stuff on the radio.
You will definelty hear drums and screeming guitars, some vocals, doubt if you recognise any keyboards (at least not often).

But I'm with you, I like a pretty balenced sound except certain styles...and orchestral stuff.

BUT, I like to hear individual instruments stand out, sometimes drums or perc., maybe french horns building in the distance, maybe a quiet carinet solo...but very clear.
And strings that just sound real. A violin that has just the right vibrato, and brilliance.

What I don't like is when a bunch of intruments just muddy together.

Also, Live play to some is not the same to others. If you play at a club for dinner then dancing...that's different than playing a series of beautiful songs for listening plasure for a group of you friends you have over. That's what I do.

That's why I want my arranger to sound like an orchestra, not a band.

An arranger with kick ass drums (especially for Latin) is OK,but sure is not my only requirement.

Lee S.

Well Lee, I like a "balanced" sound for all styles...I play all styles, and I know what I want to hear.

I don't like when a bunch of instruments just "muddy together" either...that's why I like the Yamaha sound so much...it is polished and still has great detail/separation.

I don't have to play Yamaha...I want to play Yamaha.

That's why I work for/with them...I love the sound.

Tastes differ...you like different than I...neither is wrong.

Ian

To be honest, I can't make any reasonable comparison from those demos. If you took a bowl of corn flakes, added milk to one, water to another, gasoline to another, and Varsol to another, would that be fair? Of course not.

Let's hear four demos of four keyboards with the same player, same recording set up, and then give an opinon. Anything else is futile.

I�m a bit curious as to how many in here has even heard the AUDYA live? I mean in person.
I don�t think its fair to compare these instruments on a couple of bad-recorded demos. The key word here is the LIVE sound, which obviously cannot be experienced through a set of PC speakers.
However I do think that Yamaha sounds exactly the same in live situations as in recordings. This is NOT the case with the AUDYA. In recordings the AUDYA sounds just as bad as the Yamaha keyboards, but LIVE it�s a whole different story � the Yamaha simply does not have a chance in terms of realism and live feeling.

That being said I still prefer Yamaha keyboards since the AUDYA has got the following drawbacks:
A) It is filled with bugs.
B) It cannot play ALL chord progressions.
C) The OS was created by people whom do not give a s� about usability.

These instruments were build for LIVE performances so please don�t compare audio recordings.

Well said Morten. Audya's trying to sound so much like a real band (and failing, in my opinion) that it even has the idiosyncratic flaws of a new band just starting out.

Filled with bugs...not the vermin type, but they make lots of mistakes.

Can't play all chords...need lessons.

Don't give a sh*t as long as they are on stage and playing, and fans are gullible enough to buy into them, but are usually sorry they paid the price of admission.

In my opinion, Ketron can't afford to screw this up, but, so far, their track record on these (relatively innovative)new products has been rather dismal, and fraught with complaints...and they don't have any doting parents to bail them out.

Ian

I have the results of a very scientific poll

Kidding of course but, I had my wife listen without telling her which instrument was which. She did not care for the G70 or the Korg.

It came down to the Audya and the Tyros2, her comments, it's a tough call both Auday and Tyros2 sounded good to her non-musician ears. As a listener who is a listener and doesn't care about brands she liked both. In her words she added " the Tyros had clarity with the instruments." I interpet that to mean it's more balanced. Nevertheless her final comments was from a listener standpoint one wasn't better than the other.

Steve,

Keep in mind that our spouses can hear things we never hear. I'm thoroughly convinced my wife can hear a mouse peeing on cotton at the other end of a football field. They also know what they like and don't like musically and they are not afraid to voice their opinion--at least that's been my experience over the past half century. Kinda' like the old Popeye The Sailorman saying "I likes what I likes when I likes it!" Hopefully, we'll be able to provide some unbiased samples of different keyboards at the Mid-Atlantic Jam. It would be neat to make those comparisons of the same song being played through the same sound system using the same style, with different keyboards.

Cheers,

Gary