T'was the night before Xmas,

And alone in his house.

Old Genny was posting,

With keyboard and mouse.


His gig bag was hung,

By the chimney with care,

In hopes that a keyboard,

Soon will be there.


He's writing to SZ,

To Nigel and friends,

He's been very naughty,

And must make amends.


All he'd been posting,

Was circular patter,

He can't figure out,

Just what is the matter...


With Yamaha's marketing,

And why they are missing,

Fifteen little keys,

And he starts reminiscing...


About an arranger

The 9000 Pro,

And he says it's to blame

For Yamaha's "NO"


'Cause that's the reply,

That comes from Japan.

But Genny won't listen

He's a strong minded man.


He says, "Yamaha's wrong,

And they can't see the need.

For a 76'er

So they'll never succeed."


He harps and wails,

"Why don't they see?"

"Their marketing mavens,

Can't be smarter than me."



He sighs as he gets

A moment of clarity.

And he's suddenly convinced,

Of the wise singularity...




Of Yamaha's purpose,

And, he finally chimes,

"Their wisdom's not flawless,

But it's greater than mine."


And as he pressed "send",.

We heard him exclaim.

"I'll have to ask Ian

What 'no' means again."




[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 09-15-2010).]

My point though is that it is another lazy still old offering of old.maxed out or not, 128 poly. To me the tyros4 is just the Tyros1 only NOW getting maxed out/tired concept.
I want something fresh/new faceplate(back to black/rubber buttons please) with a whole new slew of turn knobs like an old juno if it need be. The T4 is soooo close to T3 in looks alone,never mind the same ol engine under the hood.
The T4 is like chev having the same old camaro from 1982-1992,that this year will come with a new steering wheel and new lug nuts!

[This message has been edited by mr9000 (edited 09-15-2010).]

thats funny

PA2X
G70
Audya
Mediastation

Every other TOTL arranger is aiming at the 76 key market because thats where the pro's are and so the pro wannabee...

Yamaha doesn't want to be on the pro market. Why? Because then they have to live up to people that demand first class stuff and innovation.

So Yamaha is sattisfied with the homeconsumer market.

You have heard/played the Tyros4?

The T4 is like having a Corvette chassis and engine, under your classy Camaro.

128 poly is plenty...I've never had dropouts on the T2/T3 or even the S900/ S910, so I very much doubt if there will be any issues with the Tyros4.

64-note poly was easily maxed out on an arranger...that's why they doubled it to 128.

Ian

Yes, Yamaha is very satisfied with the home consumer market...that's where the big profits lie.

Remember, lots of pros use Yamaha Tyros and mid-range PSR because they are compact, lightweight, and sound equal to, or better than, the competition's so called "pro" arrangers.

A "pro" is just a person who makes his/her living at playing...doesn't mean they are any more skilled than home players; in fact I know several home players that can easily outplay most if not all the so-called pros here on SZ including myself.

Nashville uses PSR instruments for song writing, and several big name performers use Tyros and PSR arrangers for song writing.

Korg will do okay in the small 76-note arranger arena, because there is no real competition for their PA2XPro...the Audya sure isn't, the Mediastation is almost a Yeti, and the G-70 is discontinued.

Ian

ahhhh the 76 versus 61 key debate. each time i hear it it sounds so fresh and yet i know we have danced this dance a dozen times before. Play on gentlemen.....

Isn't it a hoot, Spalding?

Thankfully I have a few days off so I have time to have fun.

I think 61 vs 76 has been going on even prior to the Tyros.

They should make a 68½ key instrument and everyone should be happy...

Ian

Nord has it right!!! 73 keys?

I don't understand why instead of discussing the merits or faults of the T4, we are arguing about 61 or 76 keys.

Yamaha have say NO. Why argue?

1- I am impress for the amount of SA voices (164) that the T4 is going to have.
2- The amount of styles (500)
3- The amount of megavoices (43)
4- Yamaha have the best beta testing of all the arrangers vendors. Usually the release keyboards don't have many bugs.

Is a challenge to Korg to do better.

I am no that impress with the Flash memory side. If the sequencer is no improve, who cares?
It took me 1 hour to load a piano sample in a T2 with 1 gig of memory.

Ian quote.."All companies make mistakes...look at Gem, for instance; there's a company that couldn't even stay in business, but you don't mention their blunders....perhaps it is because you own one of them?"


History lesson for Ian..
The Galanti family has been in the instrument manufacturer business since 1890...Three short years after Yamaha origination (1887)....and the caliber of manufactured products by the Galanti family was far superior than that of Yamaha during the early years and the following 50 years after..

To claim a family owned business failed after a 120 year run is ridiculous..
The Gem division is gone (apparently)..but I believe the Galanti's are still active..

How many family business do you know that lasted 120 years?

BTW: as far as I know ..they never made low quality. poor product..their products were always at the top...