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#293205 - 09/16/10 06:18 PM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
kbrkr Offline
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It's LEE mania!!! I can't keep up with all the Lee's, LOL

So the big question was it still worth it buying the Audya 4 or do you wish you had purchased a keyboard version of the Audya?

Al
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#293206 - 09/16/10 06:20 PM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
It's LEE mania!!! I can't keep up with all the Lee's, LOL

So the big question was it still worth it buying the Audya 4 or do you wish you had purchased a keyboard version of the Audya?

Al


or waited to buy the TYROS 4 ????

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#293207 - 09/16/10 06:37 PM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leeboy Offline
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Simple..I'm leeboy..or Lee Simmonds, in Indiana....I always sign Lee S. so we don't get confused...
Lee S.
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#293208 - 09/16/10 06:43 PM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
i'm glad i bought the module,
more versatile for me

and i'm glad i did NOT wait for the Tyros4,
their drums turn me off

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#293209 - 09/17/10 04:42 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14286
Loc: NW Florida
Lee, I'd get back in touch with Ketron... This doesn't make sense to me. It seems like you've got the Audya sys-ex implementation of what it SENDS, but the button protocol of a separate sys-ex for press and release, that doesn't really seem to be necessary just to trigger a function in the OS. Especially for something like BREAK, which is a one-time call (break only needs to be called, not stopped, too).

Personally, I'd want to take a look at the regular MIDI implementation chart, not just the sys-ex codes. I may be wrong (I hope I'm not), but most arrangers allow remote control of their style engine using simple PC#'s and CC's, which are a doddle to program, rather than sys-ex for EVERYTHING. For instance, my G70 uses PC#'s for all style related controls, Var's, Fills, Breaks, Intros, Endings, etc.. Hence, it's a snap to control externally.

I sincerely hope you have overlooked this, rather than having to use this incredibly convoluted system of sys-ex to emulate button pushes and releases of the front panel...

However, the one GOOD thing that might come of this is, if your remote has a good 'learn' feature, you MIGHT be able to hook it to the Audya module, put it into 'learn' mode, and simply press the buttons on the Audya to program the remote. But one of the issues you are going to come across is that sys-ex gets sent all in one package. So if you are playing AND doing some button pushing, you may notice a slight loss of 'feel' as played notes get held up while the sys-ex string is sent.

Try and see if you can't do this with a simple PC# or CC code first, Lee...
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#293210 - 09/17/10 06:44 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Wow. Just what the doctor ordered

The novation stuff is amazing
I made it work.
I have set up sysex codes for lots of stuff
Fill1234. Var1234. Tempo. Break. Start stop. Sync start intro. Everything

On novation you pick how long sysex string is
So you choose. 5. Even though Ketron has 7
this is because the first and last are constant
Next you ignore the H. They put after.
Just use hex numbers
Also. You only have to use. Button pressed codes
Ignore the release codes

And the timing is instant.
I have 8 pads set up
First for for 4 fills
Next four pads doe. Var abcd

And the pad feel is way better. You jut tap it barely and that's it. Not need to press.

I am so happy.
But I may need to spend another $599 for this 61 key novation

If anyone needs any help with this let me know
It's so cool. Controlling A4 from afar.

Now. Jut need to figure out if and how to control volumes to assign to faders on novation. :-)

Amazing novation rocks. Kane I should sell my akai and my maudio axiom controllers. As they don't have the bells and whistles.

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#293211 - 09/17/10 06:49 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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Thanks AJ
For hooking me up with those sysex codes
Tell Ketron to put on website
And make it part of the manual

Now how to control volume of 9 mixer parts?
I see volume for drawbars. But this is only when in drawbar mode.... Hhhmmmm.

Sorry for misspellings on previous.
It's the iPhones fault.

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#293212 - 09/17/10 06:52 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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AJ

I did not see sysex codes for the 16 new tabs in A4/5

Can you get those to me?

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#293213 - 09/17/10 07:01 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
Lee, those volume Parts ought to be simple MIDI volume on the MIDI channel they are on. Same for reverb, chorus, etc..

I warn you, don't get into using sys-ex for those if you can possibly avoid it! It's one thing to send a simple sys-ex code for a switch, it's another thing altogether to get it to send a variable that is moving a lot (like you messing with a slider while you play) as the entire sys-ex string needs sending for each and every new value of the slider. That's a LOT of data!

BTW, if any of the switches doubles as an edit page call up (for instance, on my G70, you briefly press the Hold button, the Hold parameter engages... but you press and HOLD the 'Hold' button, the edit page for the Hold parameter comes up), you might want to go ahead and program that switch 'off' parameter, too.
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#293214 - 09/17/10 07:45 AM Re: AUDYA --->> System Exclusive .pdf is HERE !!!
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
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ok Diki

so it seems sysex for all button presses,
simple 5-7 string sysex

and then simple volume on midi channel,

back to manual...

now i need sysex for the new 16 tab buttons,

man, soon i will have my AUDYA4, hands free, with buttons assigned how I WANT

the pdf i posted i think is ONLY for original AUDYA,

any news AJ on these 16 "missing" sysex codes?

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