I agree with Dennis that the v3 G70 ROM style basses were tubby... Personally, I blame the new per-Part EQ, which they tended to over-use, and to the onboard basses being less than stellar in the first place. But since I got the SRX-07 card (and an SR-G01 card with some of the same samples on it), the bass end of my G70 is as good as anything out there...

But, as far away from flat as ALL built-in speakers are (this isn't a Yamaha bash, Ian), and as smooth and undynamic as Yamaha's base like them, it is obvious that, played through GOOD speakers (HR824's for me, too!), they are going to suffer a bit.

I didn't make that post up, Ian, Gary's post about the change in voicing from using external amps and speakers to voicing the styles using the internal speakers said EXACTLY the same thing, albeit a bit more considerately

Once you decide to do your voicing and mixing through speakers that are anything but flat, you can hardly expect it to sound good once it IS played through a good system. There's a reason studios buy really, really expensive flat systems to mix on...

Thanks very much, Diki.

Ian

OK...Thanks guys...That's what I thought...I do like the Mackies pretty well..and when I want volume...look out (Only when my wife is gone out!). Very little distortion even at very high volumes.

On the Korg PA...all I did is turn on the Master EQ and ramp up the bass a little and the treble and it sounds really good to my ears.
I run the highs up more than most of you would because I have loss in the highs with my ears (damage)..I worked on a lot of very loud IBM equipment for a lot of years!

Lee S.

It's important to be aware of the loudness curve, and how the human ear perceives frequencies differently depending on volume. What sounds good quietly won't sound the same when pumped up to dancefloor levels...

It's also a good thing to be aware when one has a frequency loss, due to age or abuse, and factor that into what we do when playing to OTHER people that may not suffer from it. Sure, it means perhaps a compromise in what WE get to hear, but once you are playing for other people, what THEY are hearing should be the main thing, IMO...

I've always felt the most important aspect of a sound system is the ability of the person behind the keyboard to hear exactly what those sitting in the audience hear. For that reason I dead-plug the keyboard's onboard speakers so they are disabled during my performances. I have a friend who was not disabling his onboard speakers and didn't know why his audience suddenly stopped dancing. He was using a mixer and fired everything through individual channels before going to the PA. Turns out that the cable from the keyboard's output had gone bad in the middle of a song--but he didn't know it. He was still playing the keyboard, but only a few people sitting a couple yards from the keyboard could hear anything at all. Of course his mic was still firing through the amp. Fortunately, I was there when it happend, quickly figured out what happened, replaced the cable with one of my spares and he was back in business. I gave him one of my spare dead-plugs and he has used it ever since. Additionally, he changed the EQ settings on his keyboard because he was no longer hearing the onboard speakers--it made a huge difference.

Cheers,

Gary

Add a little 60 cycle Hum...that should do ot...

TP, I'm not quite sure you get it... OF COURSE it's my opinion. Just as yours is yours. And, of course, precious few of us have EVER had someone come up and say they wished we played something else, no matter WHAT it is!

I no more expect you to like the Roland sound than you should expect me to like the Yamaha one. I imagine at some point or another, you have favorably compared your Yamaha to every other arranger out there. Are WE to get insulted that you don't like Roland (or Korg, or whatever you think your Yamaha is superior to)?

'Cause I don't... You can post as much as you want to about Roland. I know Ian does! Doesn't worry me in the slightest...

And, if you post about it enough, I'll get the impression that what you say is REALLY how you feel, it's YOUR OPINION. And I WON'T be telling you to take a couch and get some therapy. Because, of course, you are entitled to feel that way...

Grow a pair. If you want the freedom to be able to voice YOUR opinion, allow others the freedom to voice theirs... or STFU. It's what you want from ME, after all...! Sauce for the goose(step) is sauce for the gander