Again.....it is left to be proven.

Well Donny, Malika3625 says, "but you have to listen and explore Tyros4 by yourselves and since I have one I know how much it has been improved from Tyros3 specialy Drumkits and Voices with SA2."

He seems to have first-hand knowledge, although to be fair, it is his own opinion.

Ian

excactly

Ian,

Anything negative said about Yamaha you defend to a point where you have to trade insults with people. Every single thread about Yamaha has you involved defending the product.

Sorry bro, but it's getting old.

Sorry, I'd agree with you, son, but then we'd both be wrong.

Ian

I guess what I'm saying is take the high road and stop the back and forth with zone members.

Nothing heard on-line can give anyone a honest view on the pro's and con's.

Why? You're doing it.

Don't like what someone does? Don't do it yourself.

Ian

In general...
I feel Ian is correct on one point..
Yamaha does not want my business!

Why do I say that....
Many reasons, the main one is a lot of things I want are not there.

The 2 times I have called Yamaha support for assistance and/or suggestion for a OS update...I have been told 'No...you don't need that, this is a home keyboard, not a PRO instrument'

It seems I'm not alone...Yamaha does not want a lot of people's business!

If Korg comes with what I think they will..AND it gets promoted well...lookout!

Lee S.

No Lee, Yamaha wants customers just like every other manufacturer...they just have a target market that does not include you.

I sold more Tyros3 than I did Tyros2, so sales appear to be getting better rather than getting less...the Tyros4 may be an even bigger seller...time will tell.

Lee, I felt the same way about Roland...they weren't making anything that I wanted...the products were either too heavy, or I didn't like their way of doing things; user programs for instance, but the main deterrent was the weight and bulk.

I used to demo for Roland back in the E-series glory days...they are a fine company, and very focused, much the same way as Yamaha.

I can buy whatever brand I choose for my own personal use...my Roland rep buddy bought an S910 from me, I had a Roland/Boss digital recorder ...we buy what is best for our needs, and if a particular manufacturer doesn't have something to meet them...we buy elsewhere.

It's no big deal.

On your last comment, I truly hope Korg come out with a new TOTL range...competition is what drives these companies, and we the user/player always benefit.

Ian

Ian,
If there target market does not include ME!...THEN, they do not want MY business AS I SAID!

Just because my (and many others) needs and interest in an instrument do not fit their 'target market' does not mean we are any less valuable as potential customers.

They are just missing a piece of market share...that someone else gets.
I was director of marketing for a pretty large group in IBM so I do know a little something about marketing AND competition.
It's really not good to give away ANY business you could have..the old locusts in the wheat field scenario.

Lee S.